lol. my bad.

Do anyone think that these type of hand gets dominated alot when hit one pair facing action?

Why do you assume that if you get three bet with QJ you have to call and see a flop?

I'll open raise any two suited broadways UTG in 6 max. I grind micro 6 max sngs though, where the megadonks lurk. Top 2/cash after like 400 games is nearly 50%.

If you have been doing it for some time even years now just filter each hand and see if your making any money.

Opening suited boardways > opening baby pairs in my experience (from UTG)

Should actully be "Broadway" Proper noun capitalism Ain't gooder english funly?

The thought of folding suited broadway cards utg makes me want to puke.

I understand that. lol

Do you feel the same for small suited aces?

It depends I sometimes open stuff like A7s-ATs UTG at full ring where there are not many players that are going to flat me with dominating Ax hands. A lot of FR players will 3bet AK and fold everything else but pp's to an ep raise because they are worried about flopping tpgk vs sets/op/tptk.

I think I'm clarifying something.
I believe that people misunderstood one of the posts, a recomendation to open from UTG with hands like KJo seems to have been for six max games but then was taken by some to be advice for ring games. I could be wrong but I don't think anyone on here is actually advocating adding hands like KJo to UTG raising range at a full table.
I read it again and I see how it could be taken that way but in the context of the post I am pretty sure he meant it for 6 max.

Oh, and yeah, I think any suited Broadways are pretty standard opens from EP in a 6 max. Personally though, I drop QTs, and KTs until I start getting a TAG image and in a tourney while the blinds are low. Even with a good tight image I need the right opponents to raise with QTs from UTG when blinds aren't too high.

I prefer Marvin Gardens to Boardwalk because it hits more often. But don't open any hand which is -EV. Although you'll want to be able to have a good mix of hands across different board types

its really dependant on the players. if theres some good regs IP i'd rather tighten up a bit OOP. if theres fishes in the blinds you want to open a lot more.

I'm a fullring player but I wasn't confused by the post as I got OP to clarify that he was talking 6max right away when he started this thread.

I play a little loose in early position because I'm at NL10 right now and the regulars are pretty easy to play against. I'm not winning tons with those midling broadways from early position, but I am up marginally with them. I'll probably wait until I have larger samples to re evaluate. I've been opening over 10% range from UTG at 9 handed tables for the last 230k hands or so.

A while back I came to a realization. When I flatted with small pp's against an early position raise I was strictly setmining. Anybody paying close enough attention could see that I was folding to cbets a lot and most nit regulars weren't stacking off with overpairs often enough when I did hit, and a lot of the time I hit, they missed, so getting paid was difficult.

Most of these regs were opening like 5-7% ranges UTG that looked like 77-AK with some having lower pairs and AQ mixed in there.

I realized that this tight range plays super poorly on Q and J high flops. On A or K high flops you have AK, KK and AA that will hit which makes up a pretty big part of that tight range.

On a Q high flop the guy raising 77+/AK only has like QQ+ that really likes this flop unless he makes a set which is only another few combos. I figured out that floating or raising these flops to rep sets worked a ton, and it kept me in line by not bluffing too much.

These EP ranges are super easy to play against.

I don't like to be super easy to play against and if I can raise broadway type hands or suited connectors in these spots, it makes it more difficult for regs to narrow my range.

Also, many regs don't adjust at all and just keep setmining, while fish still call with tons of dominated hands.

No... Folding Axs utg doesn't bother me, and I open with those between 40-80% depending on the table. I am opening suited broadway utg 100% though

The problem with playing the lower suited broadway too aggresively is that...say the flush hits..... even if you are ahead (ie. you have the mid flush vs a low flush...or you are the only one with the flush) how much confidence do you have in it? Basically you might not have enough confidence in it to risk enough chips to make a big pot.

Say you made the flush...you bet and someone reraises...you are now in a dilemma right? Do you want to go over the top with an all-in fully knowing that there might be 5 or 6 (or more) flushes that beats yours?

Heck, the other dude might not even actually have a bigger flush, just playing aggressively...are you going to have the level of conviction in your read to make the call?

Cheers,

S

Filtering for 'hand strength = high flush OR low flush' (not nut flush), 'saw showdown' and 'board was unpaired' my W$SD is 88.7%. Even filtering for 'player won or lost = bigger than 70bb' I'm winning over 80% of the time at showdown.

Flush over flush happens WAY less often than you think