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11-18-2014 , 09:12 PM
The equation to find the calling frequency that will make your opponent indifferent between betting and checking his bluffs is P/(P+B). P = pot size, B = bet size. So if your opponent bets 3/4 pot, you need to call 57% of the time to make him indifferent.

The equation to find the minimum equity needed to call is B/(2B+P). So vs a 3/4 pot bet, you need a minimum of 30% equity to make a break-even call.

So if hands in your range that have 30% equity or more is less than 57% of your range, does this mean you need your range isn't strong enough and you should adjust your strategy on earlier streets to make it strong enough?

Last edited by RFoley03; 11-18-2014 at 09:35 PM.
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11-19-2014 , 12:41 AM
I think it depends on the board and who has the range advantage so much that these equations are only a jumping off point. If I have a range advantage then I can call more than the odds would suggest. If my opponent has the advantage, I can fold more than the odds would suggest.

Sometimes your range is capped and your opponent's isn't. There's nothing inherently wrong with this. It's just a part of the game. Sometimes your range is uncapped and your opponent's is. This is awesome. Sometimes both ranges are uncapped, but one player holds a range advantage. This is ok too. Sometimes both players ranges are capped. This is also ok.

What does it all add up to? Just try to make the most +ev play and let the chips fall where they may. Recognizing who benefits from the board and the action can help your decision making.
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11-25-2014 , 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=RFoley03;45277104]

The equation to find the minimum equity needed to call is B/(2B+P). So vs a 3/4 pot bet, you need a minimum of 30% equity to make a break-even call.

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Isn't it B/(B+P) sine you don't include your called bet into the pot to be won??

e.g. Villian bets 100 into 200. You need 100/(100+200)= 1/3 equity as twice you will lose 100 and one you will win 200 to break even??
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11-25-2014 , 10:41 PM
[QUOTE=khutchi;45341730]
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Originally Posted by RFoley03

The equation to find the minimum equity needed to call is B/(2B+P). So vs a 3/4 pot bet, you need a minimum of 30% equity to make a break-even call.

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Isn't it B/(B+P) sine you don't include your called bet into the pot to be won??

e.g. Villian bets 100 into 200. You need 100/(100+200)= 1/3 equity as twice you will lose 100 and one you will win 200 to break even??
No he is right...equity equals B/(2B+P).

V = Expected Value
E = Equity

V = E*(P+B) - (1-E)*B
V = E*P + E*B - B + E*B
V = E*(P+2*B) - B

Now break even value means V = 0. Substituting

0 = E*(P+2*B) - B
B = E*(P+2*B)
B/(P+2*B) = E
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11-26-2014 , 01:50 AM
wow. +1 Just_grindin. Thanks for clearing that up....
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11-26-2014 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RFoley03
So if hands in your range that have 30% equity or more is less than 57% of your range, does this mean you need your range isn't strong enough and you should adjust your strategy on earlier streets to make it strong enough?
You must have hands that beat his bluffs 100% (in vacuum they lose to his value bets 100%). You call with them 57% of the time (57% top hands of your bluff catching range).
he value bets 7 times and bluffs 3 times. So by calling you have your 30% equity.
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