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10-30-2011 , 05:49 PM
When playing live is it more important to set a time limit or a monetary value on stop loss or certain gains?
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10-30-2011 , 06:58 PM
Really, there is no reason to quit when you're playing well and the game is good. If things are going bad, and you're just throwing money away, obv quit, but always keep the heater going until things change.
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10-30-2011 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DiligentOne
always keep the heater going until things change.
So true, I can't count how many times I was up a ton, and was very glad I didn't leave.
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10-30-2011 , 09:53 PM
As much as it is vital to ride heaters for all they are worth, it's equally important to not play to "protect a win" or with "scared money".
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10-31-2011 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Something Clever
When playing live is it more important to set a time limit or a monetary value on stop loss or certain gains?
It depends.

I'm assuming you are a recreational player since you're asking this question or you are considering playing full-time live.

I've been in both scenarios and think it's ok to set a time limit if you are a casual player. You can't really put in those long sessions because they will throw off your sleep schedule and affect your performance with your day job.

Conversely, if poker is your main source of income, you must absolutely NOT set any sort of limits IF the game is good AND you are not tilting. It's the nature of the game... Great games are hard to find, especially these days, and you must take full advantage of them.

I'll also throw in a caveat.
Some people do not play their "A" game when they are up a bunch in a session. I am guilty of this at times and will leave only if the games is bad/average. I will stay even if I'm playing my "C" game if I think the game is good enough and profitable.
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10-31-2011 , 06:36 PM
It depends on what you are trying to accomplish from playing like 78sooted mentioned.
A professional is always going to base his decision to stay in a game based on how hes playing and how good the game is. There might be minor exceptions like if he needs sleep for a tournament, etc..
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10-31-2011 , 09:45 PM
Was talking with another good live player about this and I told him I had a 2bi stoploss and he asked if I was prone to tilt and I said no. If ur not going to tilt and you think the game is good play till it starts to become -ev.
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10-31-2011 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flybine_03
Was talking with another good live player about this and I told him I had a 2bi stoploss and he asked if I was prone to tilt and I said no. If ur not going to tilt and you think the game is good play till it starts to become -ev.
I agree with what you guys are saying. Maybe what i shouldve asked is when does a long session become too long? I've had many 24+ hour sessions. I'm sure at some point due to dellusion it has to be a -ev to keep playing even if the game is good. I just feel like I get leaned on a lot when I'm tired. In situations where I'd lead or play back I am check folding.
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11-01-2011 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Something Clever
I agree with what you guys are saying. Maybe what i shouldve asked is when does a long session become too long? I've had many 24+ hour sessions. I'm sure at some point due to dellusion it has to be a -ev to keep playing even if the game is good. I just feel like I get leaned on a lot when I'm tired. In situations where I'd lead or play back I am check folding.
I think 24+ hours is too much for one session. It puts a toll on the body and is -EV health-wise, especially as you age. You are also correct in that you will get leaned on a lot more. You are not as sharp and focused when playing that long. The fresh, good players will take advantage of this. Remember, poker isn't going anywhere. It will be there the next day, even though the game might not be as great.

I play 4 to 6 hour sessions. Sometimes I play 2 or rarely 3 sessions per day but I take at least an hour in between sessions to eat, move around, exercise, etc. Sometimes I stretch my sessions out to 10-12 hours without a break, if the game is great, but I discovered that anything beyond that affects my play and is -EV for me.

I see players play 24+ hour sessions from time to time without getting up, eating, etc... can't be healthy, and they are usually stuck waiting for that one double up.
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11-01-2011 , 04:16 PM
If you have good self-awareness don't set limits and decide every case separately.

If you don't trust yourself you can stop yourself from making a big mistake by setting up limits.
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11-01-2011 , 05:05 PM
You should have an amount of time you plan on planning. If things are going poorly and you need a day off then take a day off.

You can't quit every time you have a small loss though otherwise you won't get your hours in. Also its fine to extend hours when you are doing well and playing well.

You have to be objective about if you effected by poor results, the length of time you've been playing,etc.

The goal is to get enough hours in and play well.
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