Hello all,

Is it possible in Poker to have a hand in an all-in preflop situation where one will absolutely win every time?

PS: Max. Ten Players.

yes its possible, just statistically very unlikely. Basically you are asking the same question as 'is it possible to flip a coin and it land on heads 100% of the time?

Although more unlikely its still possible but but becomes more unlikely with every subsequent flip.

also it Makes no difference if its a FR or 6max table. the number of players entering the pot in that hand obviously alters your chance of winning though.

I know it's not always that situation, mostly all situations are 80/20. The purpose of this question was actually if it is possible. You said that it's possible, can you show me the hands everyone has to have in order to make this possible?

Absolutely wins? No-a straight flush is always possible for the board so everyone ties in most cases

If you eliminate flush and straight possibilities (a big IF), then AA will always beat an even number of villains, who, in groups of two, have the same pair.

But, I may have missed something.

Maybe I am misunderstanding the question, but I think the answer is a resounding No.

I think the furthest ahead that you can be (in preflop all-in situations) is to hold AA against A9o, where Villain's 6 is the same suit as one of your Aces. In that event, you are over 93% to win. But you can never be 100% preflop.

A8o, A7o and A6o also are among the worst dogs against AA. A5o and lower kickers have a small amount of straight potential which makes them slightly better against AA. Likewise AKo, AQo, AJo, ATo fare somewhat better because of their straight potential. But all of them are very crappy against AA.

That's the beauty and the horror of Hold'em. Any two cards can win.

Don't only think about two persons going all-in, even ten people can go all-in theoretically.

Just thinking about this for a few minutes, but I'm pretty sure the answer is still no for 10 people. Maybe with more than 10 you could do it.

This is the best I came up with so far:

AsAd
TsTd
ThTc
9s9d
9h9c
5s5d
5hdc
4s4d
4h4c

There are 9 hands here. Got rid of almost all the straights. The pocket Ts can chop with an ace high straight. Would need to add two more hands to get rid of all four Ks Qs or Js to eliminate that. Maybe there's a better way to space the pairs, but I think you want Ts and 5s since all straights have either a T or a 5. Could add in the other pair of aces to get rid of that straight possibility, but then you're chopping, not winning. Would need to add in a bunch more players to get rid of flush possibilities. When I stoved this, there were some 9-way ties, but I'm having trouble visualizing what those would be.

Edit: 9-way ties will be on boards with 4 of a kind and an ace or full houses of the type n's full of aces.

Thinking about this question further, I realized that you must be asking this:

Is there a way to distribute the cards among all ten players so that AA will be 100% against just one of the ten players? Yes, it is possible.

Imagine you move in preflop with two black Aces and get called by two black Kings. If the other players have folded the other two kings and all four tens, then KK is drawing dead. The absence of tens in the deck will make it impossible for either of you to complete a straight (or straight flush for that matter). And your bigger spade and bigger club will ensure that KK can never make a better flush. The other players have folded 16 cards; you need Kh, Ks, Tc, Th, Ts, Td to be among the folded cards. So yes, that is possible. But obviously that would be a very rare situation.

However, imagine that you move all in with two red Aces, and get called by As6h (Cocktails!). In order for A6 to be drawing dead preflop the other 8 players would have to have collectively folded 9 of the spades (to make a spade flush impossible), all of the fives (to make low straights impossible), all of the tens (to make the ten high straight and the Broadway chop impossible) and at least two of the sixes (to make trip sixes impossible). Nine spades plus four 5's plus four 10's plus two 6's makes 19 cards that would have to be gone. But 8 players can only fold 16 cards, not 19. Therefore A6o would always have at least a little life against AA, no matter what the other players folded. But it would be possible to create a situation where A6o's only shot is an extremely unlikely Broadway chop if you leave the tens in the deck.

Oh. Finally I get the question. Goodygumdrops has got the right idea, but you need the other two aces to play:

AhAd
AcAs
ThTd
TcTs
9h9d
9c9s
5h5d
5c5s
4h4d
4s4c

Say you are the one with the two red Aces . . .

In this situation, AhAd will chop with AcAs much of the time. Low straights are not possible as the 4's, 5's and 9's are stepping all over each others straight draws. High straights are not possible because the A's, T's and 9's are likewise blocking one another's straight draws. No one can make a set. But it will still be possible for AcAs to make a flush, as there will still be 9 spades and 9 clubs in the deck.

I would guess that this is as strong a position as Aces could possibly get - in terms of the likelihood of winning at least part of the pot. However, you would mostly just be chopping the blinds, and if there is a rake on the table, then you will lose money most of the time.

It's actually KK vs K2o.

The hypothetical question doesn't make sence and doesn't happen in real life.

Depending on how I read your question, I guess the questions is "is it posible to have the mortal nuts (no other hand can beat you) pre-flop or on the flop". The title to this thread is "preflop"....the answer is NO.


Example: Best starting hand in poker AA. Worst starting hand 72

Flop comes A22, turn is another 2, river is a 2, the starting hand of 72 made quads by the river, beating the AA starting hand.

You would also need the others to have folded the other 2 aces or else you could chop when the board runs out 6666A. And then there's the straight flushes on board that also chop. But this is the right idea, to have people fold these cards instead of entering the pot with them.

if we can do that, we may as well just say everyone except the AA folds preflop?

Um, no. the starting hand of 72 made quads by the turn and a misdeal by the river.

This is a super funny post. Just how you interpreted the question and went about answering it.