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06-06-2011 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jweez
Seth can you comment on this statement by Rizen in the Lock thread... he later clarified checks by courier available on Monday 6/13
If I'm understanding Rizen's posts correctly, all of these will be paid out of their casino side basically meaning that you transfer you poker funds over to the casino before doing one of these cashout options. They are able to do this because their casino cashier is their own and not part of Merge. So none of these new options he described will be an option of RPMs casino isn't seperate as well. But maybe that's just the way I'm reading it.
06-06-2011 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by titans01
Seth,

Can you tell us if RPM's casino is seperate of Merge? It seems some of Lock's success and future plans on cashouts revolve around their casino being independent of the Merge cashier.
RPM offers the standard Merge network selection of casino games.

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Originally Posted by titans01
If I'm understanding Rizen's posts correctly, all of these will be paid out of their casino side basically meaning that you transfer you poker funds over to the casino before doing one of these cashout options. They are able to do this because their casino cashier is their own and not part of Merge. So none of these new options he described will be an option of RPMs casino isn't seperate as well. But maybe that's just the way I'm reading it.
You are reading it correctly sir.
06-06-2011 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by titans01
Seth,

Can you tell us if RPM's casino is seperate of Merge? It seems some of Lock's success and future plans on cashouts revolve around their casino being independent of the Merge cashier.
RPM will never offer cashouts through their casino for obvious reasons
06-06-2011 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RPMSeth
Hi folks,

I've noticed that a fair amount of you wanted a new withdrawal thread created.

I don't have a problem at all with the thread being created, but I don't want it to spin out of control. I have merged the older thread with this one so I can put this post at the top.

I will close this thread if it spins out of control and starts getting speculative, so here are a few things to note.

1) Merge has had an enormous amount of transaction requests and is doing as best they can to process transactions safely and efficiently.

2) Checks are taking between 3-6 weeks for most players. This is what we've been quoting, but this can change. Merge has taken steps to try to cut down wait times.

Again, please understand that we are equally as frustrated - if not moreso - with the wait times in processing your withdrawals. We are not interested in keeping your money from you, but we are interested in making sure that your money reaches you safely. I can't thank you enough for your patience, and I sincerely appreciate that most of you guys are handling all of the news.
Seth your response is greatly appreciated, but the same reply has become a bit stale. No offense to you personally, but the quote of "merge has taken steps to try to cut down wait times" parallels FullTilt's current motto of "we are trying our best to facilitate cashouts while releasing no new information" with no actual show of good faith on their part, which has completely decimated their public image and business by no real results being garnered after 8 weeks of Black Friday. And I can guarantee you that the players are much more frustrated waiting for their checks than RPM is. Imagine if your paycheck took 6 weeks to be delivered to you. Also, I just quickly skimmed the Lock thread and they are now allowing check by courier with an expected delivery timeframe of 3-5 days. I do not regret my decision to choose RPM as my Merge skin, but you guys are not exactly giving me reason to feel confident in my choice. And I feel that that is representative of almost everyone posting in this thread.
06-06-2011 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by serenity21
Seth your response is greatly appreciated, but the same reply has become a bit stale. No offense to you personally, but the quote of "merge has taken steps to try to cut down wait times" parallels FullTilt's current motto of "we are trying our best to facilitate cashouts while releasing no new information" with no actual show of good faith on their part, which has completely decimated their public image and business by no real results being garnered after 8 weeks of Black Friday. And I can guarantee you that the players are much more frustrated waiting for their checks than RPM is. Imagine if your paycheck took 6 weeks to be delivered to you. Also, I just quickly skimmed the Lock thread and they are now allowing check by courier with an expected delivery timeframe of 3-5 days. I do not regret my decision to choose RPM as my Merge skin, but you guys are not exactly giving me reason to feel confident in my choice. And I feel that that is representative of almost everyone posting in this thread.
+500 totally agree. These type of posts are sending this thread rapidly into the dumpster. Won't be long before it's locked/deleted.
06-06-2011 , 07:16 PM
I keep reading through the withdrawl threads and this is what I gather.

“listen here you beautiful bitch im about to fu*k you up with some truth..” -Kenny Powers

sorry but this will be for all of merge not just rpm specific, but since its one in the same, here goes nothing.

Preblack friday http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...18&postcount=6

Post black friday (pre umw melt down)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...9&postcount=24

we confirm here late april checks were taking 1 week

so what everyone is wondering is, was there one check confirmed on twoplustwo for the month of may (post umw)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=402

someone confirms a moneybookers withdrawl, but im pretty sure this is right around time umw goes down so its meh. umw transaction going successful at this point got lost where it goes down, confirmations of umw, and finally someone confirms a check, I stoped reading the thread but you get the point, check has been confirmed

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=504

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=525

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=531

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=617

so confirmation is been given that checks are coming, Not sure what people think rpmseth can do, he can just relay the infromation he is given back to us. Now after reading the thread I tell you that 4 post down from everyone of these confirmations someone writes, anybody confirm a check? Well yes but twoplustwo people love to post but hate reading.

I am sngrider and this is not a shill account

Last edited by SNGrider; 06-06-2011 at 07:24 PM.
06-06-2011 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jweez
Seth can you comment on this statement by Rizen in the Lock thread... he later clarified checks by courier available on Monday 6/13
The only comment I'm going to make in this regard is that RPM Poker and Merge Gaming take the integrity of its players funds very seriously. We will not take unnecessary risks and/or shortcuts with player funds in order to cut wait times.
06-06-2011 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RPMSeth
The only comment I'm going to make in this regard is that RPM Poker and Merge Gaming take the integrity of its players funds very seriously. We will not take unnecessary risks and/or shortcuts with player funds in order to cut wait times.
vv interesting...
06-06-2011 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by serenity21
The same reply has become a bit stale. No offense to you personally, but the quote of "merge has taken steps to try to cut down wait times" parallels FullTilt's current motto of "we are trying our best to facilitate cashouts while releasing no new information" with no actual show of good faith on their part, which has completely decimated their public image and business by no real results being garnered after 8 weeks of Black Friday. And I can guarantee you that the players are much more frustrated waiting for their checks than RPM is. Imagine if your paycheck took 6 weeks to be delivered to you. Also, I just quickly skimmed the Lock thread and they are now allowing check by courier with an expected delivery timeframe of 3-5 days. I do not regret my decision to choose RPM as my Merge skin, but you guys are not exactly giving me reason to feel confident in my choice. And I feel that that is representative of almost everyone posting in this thread.
While I can appreciate the sentiment in your post, please understand there's a lot more to sending out checks than "Let's write a check and put it in the mail." It's not my place to go into detail about how this process works, but it's fair to say that if it were that easy, there wouldn't be a 3-6 week wait time for checks.

Merge is and has been working very hard to process transactions in a timely manner both pre and post 'Black Friday.' There have been withdrawal delays in the past precisely because Merge refuses to take risks with player funds.

I know you're frustrated with the wait times, and quite frankly, so are we. We're all working very hard and looking into many different options to cut down wait times and get you your money as quickly as possible.

I sincerely do appreciate everyone's patience in this matter as we are doing our utmost.

Last edited by RPMSeth; 06-06-2011 at 09:07 PM.
06-06-2011 , 08:51 PM
Losing confidence. Rapidly.
06-06-2011 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RPMSeth
While I can appreciate the sentiment in your post, please understand there's a lot more to sending out checks than "Let's write a check and put it in the mail." It's not my place to go into detail about how this process works, but it's fair to say that if it were that easy, there wouldn't be a 3-6 week wait time for checks.

Merge is and has been working very hard to process transactions in a timely manner both pre and post 'Black Friday.' There have been withdrawal delays in the past precisely because Merge refuses to take risks with player funds.

I know you're frustrated with the wait times, and quite frankly, so are we. We're all working very hard and looking into many different options to cut down wait times and get you your money as quickly as possible.

I sincerely do appreciate everyone's patience in this matter as we are doing our utmost.
very cool; at least you're staying in touch and acknowledging concerns. i, for one, am very aware you're caught in the middle and that it must be frustrating.

sj
06-06-2011 , 11:31 PM
After reading through this thread and Seth's comments...it seems clear to me that Merge doesn't have a payment processor at this time...and will not take a risk with a questionable processor like some skins...most notably Lock has.
06-06-2011 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by saint john
very cool; at least you're staying in touch and acknowledging concerns. i, for one, am very aware you're caught in the middle and that it must be frustrating.

sj
I also appreciate the personal attention of RPM Seth. However, the sequence of events here is a bit frustrating....and concerning, especially for US Players, thus the reason for my original request in OP for feedback from US players only in a separate thread. Frustrated at the following sequence of events......

1) RPM promotes "sign up now for rakeback before June 1st"
2) RPM quickly accepts US Player Deposits
3) Then RPM suspends accepting new US Players after June 1st date passes
4) Then, players (US based at least), being told "3-6 weeks for cashouts but that can change"......but not actually GETTING their cashouts.

Troubling. Actions simply speak louder than words, and I am very hopeful to see US based players start getting cashouts in a timely consistent manner soon.
06-07-2011 , 01:47 AM
seth, are you able to comment on this article at all? it's about 18 months old. does it have anything to do with with current withdrawal issues?

http://www.pokershark.com/news/what%...erge-poker-825

thanks,

sj
06-07-2011 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by saint john
seth, are you able to comment on this article at all? it's about 18 months old. does it have anything to do with with current withdrawal issues?

http://www.pokershark.com/news/what%...erge-poker-825

thanks,

sj
I know that a Carbon rep said that this news is not accurate.
06-07-2011 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by saint john
seth, are you able to comment on this article at all? it's about 18 months old. does it have anything to do with with current withdrawal issues?

http://www.pokershark.com/news/what%...erge-poker-825

thanks,

sj
This was covered a bunch of years ago on 2+2, I can't find the thread but it has nothing to do with RPM or Merge
06-07-2011 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EnergyBurst
This was covered a bunch of years ago on 2+2, I can't find the thread but it has nothing to do with RPM or Merge
or ORIGINAL OP. Any US Based Players receive a cashout from RPM recently ? Curious to hear updates.
06-07-2011 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EnergyBurst
This was covered a bunch of years ago on 2+2, I can't find the thread but it has nothing to do with RPM or Merge
thanks. it seemed like it had something to do with merge. the word merge was mentioned repeatedly in the article. i didn't read the original post as i didn't know it existed. what makes you say it has nothing to do with merge? i'll look for the original. it may answer my question.

sj
06-07-2011 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by saint john
thanks. it seemed like it had something to do with merge. the word merge was mentioned repeatedly in the article. i didn't read the original post as i didn't know it existed. what makes you say it has nothing to do with merge? i'll look for the original. it may answer my question.

sj
This thread is not for speculation, especially about a vague two-year old, unsubstantiated article. Please stop posting along these lines. Let's stay on track here.
06-07-2011 , 12:20 PM
Ok, last post I will make complaining about withdrawal times, but I just had to say this. Lock is providing efficient cashouts now. Hero's CEO stated that he can help expedite withdrawals if you directly message him. RPM provides the boilerplate response of everything is being done to facilitate withdrawals. Seth, you stated that it is not your place to comment on the process, but RPM is quickly about to be lumped in with Carbon and BC, and if you just quickly skim the threads related to these skins, you will see that this is not a good thing...
06-07-2011 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pianospike
This thread is not for speculation, especially about a vague two-year old, unsubstantiated article. Please stop posting along these lines. Let's stay on track here.
i wasn't speculating about anything. just asking seth's take on the article. the article may be total bs. i certainly don't believe everything i read. i found the old thread and i really don't know what to make of it. a lot of bs as usual. i couldn't really see where anything was actually resolved. i didn't come to the conclusion after reading 50% of the posts on the thread that it has nothing to do with merge. and again, people making much mention of the slow withdrawals at merge. so this isn't a new issue. that doesn't mean that merge isn't on the up and up. i try to give people the benefit of the doubt and that's what i'm doing regarding seth's responses.

thank you

sj
06-07-2011 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by saint john
i wasn't speculating about anything. just asking seth's take on the article. the article may be total bs. i certainly don't believe everything i read. i found the old thread and i really don't know what to make of it. a lot of bs as usual. i couldn't really see where anything was actually resolved. i didn't come to the conclusion after reading 50% of the posts on the thread that it has nothing to do with merge. and again, people making much mention of the slow withdrawals at merge. so this isn't a new issue. that doesn't mean that merge isn't on the up and up. i try to give people the benefit of the doubt and that's what i'm doing regarding seth's responses.

thank you

sj
Only thing that matters in this thread is status of US Based Players CASHOUT REQUESTS. Anyone received a cash out post Black Friday ? Please post progress.
06-07-2011 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by saint john
i wasn't speculating about anything. just asking seth's take on the article. the article may be total bs. i certainly don't believe everything i read. i found the old thread and i really don't know what to make of it. a lot of bs as usual. i couldn't really see where anything was actually resolved. i didn't come to the conclusion after reading 50% of the posts on the thread that it has nothing to do with merge. and again, people making much mention of the slow withdrawals at merge. so this isn't a new issue. that doesn't mean that merge isn't on the up and up. i try to give people the benefit of the doubt and that's what i'm doing regarding seth's responses.

thank you

sj
that article doesn't have anything to do with RPM withdrawals, was posted in 2009, and still doesn't have anything to do with RPM withdrawals. do you even read thread titles or posts before you start hammering gibberish on your keyboard?
06-08-2011 , 12:01 AM
How about a little common sense in this thread?

Black Friday didn't just take out the big three U.S.-facing poker rooms. In combination with the more recent Linwood Payment Solutions sting it has destroyed both UseMyWallet and a great deal of the invisible infrastructure that handles checks to U.S. players.

No one knows the details of the damage and that is a good thing. I don't want an explanation from Merge because anyone who would discuss these problems in public is too dumb to be trusted with money.

It takes time and expertise to build a new underground railroad for online gaming money. Be patient and let people do their jobs.

PS: You don't just wake up one morning and say "Let's pay our customers via Western Union!" There are rules and security procedures in place to prevent WU from being used to launder money. Circumventing WU security on a large scale is a complicated and difficult enterprise. Some sportsbooks seem to have mastered this black art. Good for them. But I doubt this can be a short-term fix for someone who doesn't already have it.
06-08-2011 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by StellarWind
How about a little common sense in this thread?

Black Friday didn't just take out the big three U.S.-facing poker rooms. In combination with the more recent Linwood Payment Solutions sting it has destroyed both UseMyWallet and a great deal of the invisible infrastructure that handles checks to U.S. players.

No one knows the details of the damage and that is a good thing. I don't want an explanation from Merge because anyone who would discuss these problems in public is too dumb to be trusted with money.

It takes time and expertise to build a new underground railroad for online gaming money. Be patient and let people do their jobs.

PS: You don't just wake up one morning and say "Let's pay our customers via Western Union!" There are rules and security procedures in place to prevent WU from being used to launder money. Circumventing WU security on a large scale is a complicated and difficult enterprise. Some sportsbooks seem to have mastered this black art. Good for them. But I doubt this can be a short-term fix for someone who doesn't already have it.
good post. makes sense

      
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