Can people who are UNBIASED please post wtf is going on.

By my understanding Sloan sued Troung and Polger for defamation of character on the internet. They pretended to be him to get elected? (lol) And how Troung and Polger are re-seuing the USCF for what exactly, tryign to kick them off the board because of this? It seems everyone in the chess world hate sPolger and Troung but are they unaware Sloan is a lunatic. If you have read his website (utter flith) and met the man, you can easily understand this. The fact that this man was on the board of anything is a travesty. It seems people being accused of defiling HIS character is laughable, if anythng someone other than him pretending to be him can only help. Yet I still don't understand why Trougn and Polger are re-suing the USCF? And why is Sam the nutjob seen as innocent in all this? Someone please help?



...I was slightly afraid to post this out of fear Sam Sloan might read it and sue me but whatever.

I thought this thread was a thread about a lawsuit against a USCF thread.

Not much to add beyond the fact that I'm surprised most people aren't aware that Sloan is quite... eccentric. He seems happy to share his hoards of stories of random degeneracy and debauchery to anybody who will listen or visit his site. For anybody who hasn't seen it before: http://www.anusha.com/index.htm Start at the bottom and go up from there. Guy is quite.. unique.

- Sloan is crazy
- Truong pretended to be Sloan, making all sorts of weird comments to make him look (even worse!) on the interwebs
- It's now clear that Paul Truong was "fake Sam Sloan".
- Susan Polgar and Paul Truong are suing the USCF in a lawsuit that, if successful, would bankrupt the federation

Editorial Commentary: Susan Polgar and Paul Truong should be removed from the executive board.

lol I thought it was just me who thought Zsuzsa was a bad person, although I've never met her.

Strange business, this. I've met Susan and Sam through chess, although only minimally. Based on that I would have assumed this entire mess was Sloan's fault (the man does love the courts) and that Polgar was acting at least somewhat reasonably.

I never felt it was worth my while to understand the lawsuit insanity, although if someone wants to explain all of the lawsuits and what the **** was going on, it might be an interesting read.

lol is it seriously possiblew to make sloan look worse? Basically when i knew sloan was on the other end of this i just figured it was all his fault i guess its possible both sides are *******s.

Basically it comes down to Polgar & Truong are pissed that the USCF executive board members have publicly spoken against them. The USCF executive board members paid for an investigation into certain posts on the USCF forum. This investigation, which resulted in the Mottershead Report, indicated that Truong was responsible for a number of posts that were attributed to Sam Sloan. Apparently emails were also stolen from USCF executive board members and it was later determined that Truong and/or Polgar were responsible for this too. This was publicly released and has probably hurt Polgar's business.

The problem is that Truong most likely did make those posts and did access those emails. So, it's not libel if it's true. Polgar did make a fun political/legal move by offering to settle with the USCF for $1 if they would admit fault. Sounds great, right? No. Admitting fault means the USCF pays for all the legal fees and every member of the executive board plus others named in the lawsuit would then obviously be ****ed since the lawsuit against those individuals would continue.

Sam Sloan is ****ing nuts. He sued the USCF for some bull**** and that case has already been tossed afaik.

This made me lmao

I would add some stuff but swingdoc (who is The man) sums it up nicely.

Truong was one of the co-owners at chess.net when they had a server. It seemed quite obvious to me that he was multi-accounting and then played these accounts vs each other to pump his rating up on the best lists. I complained about this and got banned.

edit: and sloan is a total nutjob ldo

I have no idea what you guys are talking about, but i gotta wonder why chess constantly attracts these super-shady officials. Is there a reason we constantly get the likes of Campomanes, Azmaj or Ilyumshinov?

I also remember Truong on USChessLive from back in the day. There was also an anonymous account called "Martian" which I surmised to be him. A few people thought that Martian was a huge computer cheat. So I'm not surprised to here about the multi-accounting.

Gems from his site:

Top News Story: My Girlfriend Failed the Bar Exam Again. (She had me arrested so that she would have more time to study for the Bar, she said. She also stopped doing her daily pushups.)

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BTW, I am running for President of the United States.

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Or how about "the most beautiful girl i ever played chess against"



... and I (Pyramidscheme) have met this chick at the time i swear she was like 14-15

Exactly.

Thanks for the summary. Well, I guess the USCF will continue its streak of poor governance and slowly bleeding money.

I remember this too. Don't know exactly how he was doing it (likely how you suggested) but his ratings were totally bogus.

old memories coming back, think i caught him either in the act of resigning games or found the games in his history. protesting didn't work tho :P ahh the days when i was young and fast

yeah I remember this account I was threatened to be banned because I said something bad about truoung and his MA'ing and stuff when he was like admin on USCL.

Wowww that is beyond hilarious, and you're right about the age. It's been a running joke over the years.

ya know i played in the World Open I saw Sloan there (played in the open section lool moron) i shoudla said something i bet some of you were there.

I mostly have been reading things from Polgar's POV, so I have only one real side to go by, but I do think the points she makes about the USCF are valid as far as business and membership goes - I'm sorta glad I didn't buy a lifetime membership - LOL

rb

ha yeah a lifetime membershop right now lol omg id just hope that im dying soon. Lets start a new organization right now

Can you elaborate on these points? I've tried to stay as far away from most of this as I can.

USCF membership is on the decline. Membership rolls are showing a steady decline - she gives some numbers on there but I think it's down to 80K or dropped about 16K in 5 yrs - I guess they're so broke we can't field our own teams to the Olympiad right now -

you can at least get some of her side at http://www.chesscafe.com/text/polgar84.pdf - looks like a real mess

in addition, their business side of sales was messed up and they had to farm out sales for a number of years to an affiliate - (Chesscafe) which I guess is now suing the USCF as well as they try to get their own store up and running again. I guess Lev Albert had some horror stories to tell as well when he was a GM on the board - (the first GM) -

sounds like the board in general needs a serious cleaning - not sure if Paul's methods were justified in doing so, but maybe you gotta burn down the house to rebuild it -

RB

and for the record, the USCF forums have some high-spirited conversations from both sides regarding the issue - but I'll be damned if I can honestly figure who is in the right/wrong here - I'm guessing it's a bit of bad behavior on all sides.

Good riddance to the USCF. This is one of the most addictive [and rewarding] games that there is, yet they can't maintain, much less grow, interest in it? Just pathetic.