How strong of a chess player is Howard Lederer?

[TomCowley]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

i really doubt a 2000 looses games vs 2800 a piece up.

pretty simple to test, play vs houdin, fritz or w.e program a piece up...

im pretty sure i wouldnt loose imo

You will get some games where it just makes a symmetric position, trades ,and you win easily (I posted one of these). If you give it some equivalent handicap where this doesn't happen, like replacing its Rs with Ns, or removing 4 pawns, etc, it will absolutely smash your face in at a rapid time control if you're around 2000.

[TexAg06]

Well said Tom. I'm around 2000 and played Houdini in several 5/0 games giving it knight odds. I played both colors and switched up which knight I'd remove. Houdini destroyed me repeatedly with ease if the position became imbalanced in virtually any way. Seriously, I was shocked at how good the engine was in 5-min blitz.

[Montrealcorp]

Originally Posted by ganstaman

I don't fully get what you're saying. The general concept is right, and that's why the piece matters more to the stronger players. However, the 2800 has many advantages over the 2000 player, and these don't cease to exist in the odds game. The 2800 makes fewer mistakes, makes fewer minor errors due to greater understanding of the game, and has greater tactical vision. Why would these not come into play here?

because those errors arent big enough to compensate for a piece up.

where the edge his for a 2800 is more on favorable transition from midgame to endgame, playing imbalances perfectly like knight vs bishop and immense knowledge of endgame technic and being able to turn equal position to a win position in endgame, but when ure a piece down with nothing to compensate its a lot different no matter how strong u are.

about the last 2 poster i dont get what u are saying .....

u saying u would loose a knight up or u wouldnt loose ?
i just dont see how a 2000 would loose in 5min games vs houdini,seriously.

i agree with tom, how can u loose with a peice up playing from the start a symetric game ??
pretty easy to win a piece up, a 2000 wont make a blunder has big as a piece value like 1500 would troughout the game .

[TomCowley]

If the game started b3 f5, I'd be lucky to score 1 out of 10 from either side a N up. You seriously have no concept of the skill difference.

[TexAg06]

Montrealcorp, I don't know what you're rated, but open the game 1.b3 f5 as TomCowley suggested and play either color, removing either knight from Houdini and see how you do. Seriously, just try it.

[Montrealcorp]

wait u telling me ure an knight up and white as well ???? and u would looose ????

i tough we were at least giving white piece for the 2800 since we are a knight up....

juts play e4 for god sake and open the game up for exchanges with white.....

[TexAg06]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

wait u telling me ure an knight up and white as well ???? and u would looose ????

i tough we were at least giving white piece for the 2800 since we are a knight up....

juts play e4 for god sake and open the game up for exchanges with white.....

I'm starting to think you're trolling now. How about you try it for yourself? Houdini 1.5 is a free download, there's nothing to lose. Give yourself white and take away Houdini's c6 knight. Like Tom said, if you score 1/10 in an open game I'll be very impressed.

[vanwely]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

Well , putting time and effort to get a mastered degree is imo a bit tougher than reaching 2000 in chess .

So imo , someone telling me his 1900 in chess its like someone coming to me and sais he finish high school , im not diminishing his acomplishment by no means , its just anecdotale for me in both situation and i eouldnt pass 1 day talking about this or being very impressed by it .

Its just trivial imo

I am just an average Joe, but have done these three things.

In my opinion, the degree of difficulty was:

1) Getting an expert rating. Difficult
You have to remember that this is competition, not just something that is accomplished in a vacuum. The person across the board is trying to win, too.
You have to have the knowledge, work effort, AND competitive juices.

2) Getting a Master's degree Average Not so hard. Just have to stick with it. I think these days they hand out degrees to anybody who shows up and pays the dues. Putting on a cap and gown is more like dressing up for Halloween than actually accomplishing something.

3) Becoming Bilingual Average This requires only immersion and a small bit of work, but there are 3 year olds who are bilingual. I don't know many 3 year old chess experts.

[alscai]

I'm a 2000 player and even though MC is certain that 2000 players must be mentally deficient, I'm proud to say that I can dress myself AND brush my own teeth. I can also use the toaster without electrocution.

[Montrealcorp]

Originally Posted by alscai

I'm a 2000 player and even though MC is certain that 2000 players must be mentally deficient, I'm proud to say that I can dress myself AND brush my own teeth. I can also use the toaster without electrocution.

i really doubt your 2000 elo with the really outrageous wrongly deduction u made from my multiple post.....