Cunningham Prop bet to get to 2100

[nikusch]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

+1 yup.
i even have a book where a guy who was an ok player decide at 50 to reach master level( or IM cant remember really) and he wrote about it, interesting read

which book is it?

[TexAg06]

Originally Posted by Do it Right

I expect the statistical logic behind most people hitting their plateau after 4 years is similar to making a statement like: "If you want to be rich then you should go buy a million dollar house since the most common shared characteristic amongst rich individuals is million+ dollar homes." There will obviously be an average time period after which most people will no longer improve, but that itself has nothing to do with plateauing as plateauing has the connotation of being unable to improve beyond that point, not unwilling. The latter undoubtedly being the cause of the plateau vastly more often than the former. For instance, Kasparov reached his peak rating in 1999. That was 14 years after he became world champion. And 29 years after he first started playing chess.

Really good post, agree with this completely.

[TexAg06]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

+1 yup.

i mean shandrax really, u cant tell after almost a year if someone can attain 2200 or not....

anyway, been written already, usually a person should plateau after around 4 years if i remember correctly, in general.
cant remember the book tho, i ll try find it.

reason are on motivation, wich rating u attain, if u give up or not on chess earlier for w.e reason, etc.

each person learn differently but one thing is common tho, more u reach a high rating fast, more chance the % will be upward that u will attain a strong rating, imo 1750 in 1 year is plenty to attain 2200 easy if he keep up the work.

i mean 2200 is only master after all.....its not IM or GM ! and if were talking 2200 ufc its not even fide ...

i even have a book where a guy who was an ok player decide at 50 to reach master level( or IM cant remember really) and he wrote about it, interesting read

Is this the book you're talking about? It's called "Chess Master at Any Age" by Rolf Wetzell.

http://www.amazon.com/Chess-Master-a.../dp/0938650580

[Montrealcorp]

yup that is it
thx for searching

imo the kaspy post is rambling, u think because he reach a rating plateau in 1999 , than it was at tht time he was best , not really.


rating are only base on your adversary.

if ure at top, then u cant really go upward cause u cant win rating point from anyone.

thats why imo, the rating of fisher was a much higher feat than kaspy.

fisher had over 100 rating point over his second while kaspy hadnt had that much vs karpov.

so whos best ?


i mean at fishr peak, i think was losing point s even if he was drawing vs the 2dn player in the world....so rating means not much beside stating whos best at that moment the ratig are present.


or else take into account kapov score in 1994 with a 2995 ratig peformance, best ever..

[gromniak]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

yup that is it
thx for searching

imo the kaspy post is rambling, u think because he reach a rating plateau in 1999 , than it was at tht time he was best , not really.


rating are only base on your adversary.

if ure at top, then u cant really go upward cause u cant win rating point from anyone.

thats why imo, the rating of fisher was a much higher feat than kaspy.

fisher had over 100 rating point over his second while kaspy hadnt had that much vs karpov.

so whos best ?


i mean at fishr peak, i think was losing point s even if he was drawing vs the 2dn player in the world....so rating means not much beside stating whos best at that moment the ratig are present.


or else take into account kapov score in 1994 with a 2995 ratig peformance, best ever..

I think Kasparov was indeed at his best at the second half of the nineties. Regarding Fischer, it is tough to compare players of different eras. More so because in the years of Fischer being at the top he had no real competition. The only real opponents (from the Soviet Union) were basically perfect for his style.

Any updates on Cunningham? I am really curious as how far he will go up and what motivation he has atm. Also, any news on the proposition bet with Lederer?

[EdwardCollins]

Small update on Allen

In August of this year he won 2 of 3 games in a game in 61 event at the Los Angeles Chess Club. He rating improved from 1739 to 1753.

Labor Day Weekend he had 4 wins and 1 loss at the Southern California Open, in San Diego. His rating improved from 1753 to 1816.

A week later he scored 3 out of 3 at another event in Los Angeles. Improved from 1816 to 1830.

A couple of weeks ago he scored 3.5 points out of 5 at the 8th Los Angeles Open in LA. Improved from 1830 to 1880.

I didn't enter any of these four events, so I did not see him.

That's 12 wins, 3 losses, and 1 draw in his 16 games.

His rating is now higher than mine ever has been. (I'm 1855 down from a high of 1857.)

I don't know when the prop bet with Lederer will be. The last I heard, Allen told me it was pushed back... with no date set. If Allen continues playing and improving, as he seems to be doing, the further it's pushed back, the better his chances. But it seems he might be in very good form right now.

[checkmate36]

Very inspiring. Thanks for the update.

[Montrealcorp]

actually if lederer didnt reach over 2100 in chess in his life , didnt had the time meanwhile to practice and if the rules on top of that prevent lederer to practice for the bet , Howard his already toast when allen almost at 1900...


no way lederer goood enough now to be a 2000 player without practicing a bit.

like in everything, when u make a comeback u cant be at your pick or close to it in anything, everyone get their skills diluded over time wihtout practice, and howard wont have the chance elements to bail him out !!!.

for Howard to have any chance to beat alllen ( and a 2000 vs 1900 is far from a sure win btw for the 2000) he would need to have around 2000 rating so after couple years of non practice, to maintain that strong rating u at least need to have reach master fide in your life .


imo, if his best is 2100 and he didnt play for couple of years, than is worth at best 1800 and this is wihtout counting he isnt up to date with opening...ouch!

and if he didnt went over 2000 than forget about it....its done and i would gladly ask Allen a piece of the action!

[EdwardCollins]

I agree. I would no longer bet on Lederer... and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have said that last year.

Also, playing all of these TOURNAMENT games, under tournament conditions, is very good practice. It's not easy to sit and concentrate intensely on something for five consecutive hours. Any tourney player will tell you they are often wiped out, physically and mentally, after a long weekend of tournament chess. This alone is good practice.

[Bill Murphy]

Originally Posted by Montrealcorp

no way lederer goood enough now to be a 2000 player without practicing a bit.

Lederer may soon have plenty of time to practice chess...

Thanks for the updates on AC.

[EdwardCollins]

After reaching a rating of 1880 (USCF), Allen then climbed to 1894 after playing in the very tough and grueling 47th Annual American Open, held over the Thanksgiving Day Weekend. He scored 4.5 out of 8 points in the Under 2000 Section.

He then dropped 13 rating points and fell to 1881, after playing in another LACC Sat & Sun G/61 event.

This weekend he is competing in the Martin Luther King, Jr. Memorial Open, in Irvine, CA.

[vinaorezende]

really?

[EdwardCollins]

Yes, really. (Why would I make that up?)

Ah, the MLK results are in.

Allen scored 3.5 points (3 wins, 2 losses, and a half point bye) in Irvine this weekend in the Under 2000 Section.

Alas, it looks like he dropped 22 rating points. He was 1881 going in and is now 1869.

Allen, if you're still around, give us an update! Any news on the match? Is it still on? If so, has a date been set? Are you enjoying the game enough to want to continue to enter tourney's after the match is over?

Your progress is very inspiring!

[EdwardCollins]

Here's the latest update, not that anyone seems to care any more.

Since my last post, Allen has climbed from a USCF rating of 1869 to 1920! He's entered five Southern California tournaments since I wrote last, and gained rating points in each and every single one! His combined score over these five tourneys is twelve wins, just four losses, and four draws.

Howard Lederer's peak USCF rating was 1951. Howard has played zero USCF rated games since at least January 1, 1991, according to the USCF database.

I think a strong case can be now made for Allen being the favorite.

[mightytiny]

Posting a few of his tourney games so we can look at them would peek interests. I hope he does well and brings this home