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05-27-2016 , 12:28 AM
I wonder what a game would look like when both sides were trying way too hard to make fancy or trendy GM-looking moves.

Probably something like this.

http://www.chessvideos.tv/chess-game....php?id=107039
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05-27-2016 , 12:53 AM
lol what in the samhell was that
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05-27-2016 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
I wonder what a game would look like when both sides were trying way too hard to make fancy or trendy GM-looking moves.

Probably something like this.

http://www.chessvideos.tv/chess-game....php?id=107039
[citation needed]

It's ridiculous that White took the draw in the final position - he surely could have taken g6 and tried to push for a win at least for a while. Show me an example of a GM taking a draw when s/he could grab a hanging pawn in the middlegame for a material advantage with no apparent comp.

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05-27-2016 , 07:57 AM
not sure if you're joking

like do you even realize that the whole point of such a game would be to make moves that look "subtle" or are manuever-y, even while ignoring hanging material or whatever
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05-27-2016 , 08:19 AM
To make it look more natural, I suggest to play one of Stockfish's top-5 non-blunder moves that looks the subtlest.
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05-27-2016 , 08:35 AM
god forbid a deliberate nonsense game doesn't look natural
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05-27-2016 , 09:05 AM
I think it's still possible to generate a lot of nonsense in a game by making moves whose antipositionality is too subtle for an engine to spot that aren't tactical blunders. (I.e. Maurice Ashley armed with a computer wouldn't dismiss those moves.) Fine-looking leaves can form a weird tree.

Here's my attempt.
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05-27-2016 , 06:34 PM
Attempt #2

Note that White's resignation after move 82 was timely - he can barely move the pieces (without dropping a pawn) and can't exchange into a pawn endgame (as it would be lost), and Black will approach with the king and grab the b and d pawns.

Here's one very subtle moment of the game. Black has played 56... Ke7-e8!? Why isn't it a blunder? What would happen after 57. Qxd6?!


Spoiler:
57... Qa5! 58. Re3 Ra6 59. Qd1 Nxe4 60. Nxe4 Bxe4 61. Rxe4 Qxa2.

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05-29-2016 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Eh, my memory deceived me - the game was indeed from Moscow Open, but played between Timofeev and Eliseev, not Inarkiev.

Still, worth going over if you want to feel like you have no idea about what's happening in a chess game for about 40 moves:

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1821867
TY
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05-29-2016 , 02:23 PM
It's amazing that this game has been played by humans. It's out of this world

Such mind****ing games usually appear when one turns engine analysis on and deliberately chooses weird non-blunder top-3 candidate moves.

Here's one more example that I've made with Stockfish 6 assistance. First of all, let me show the final touch of the engine's tactical storm. Find the best move for Black.



See move 40 of Stockfish's Persistent Bishop Game (that contains much more weirdness prior) for the answer.

(27... Qe7!? there is very unhuman I think only Alekhine and Tal would go for it OTB.)
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05-30-2016 , 04:34 PM
those games are incomprehensible nonsense
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07-10-2016 , 08:55 AM
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07-10-2016 , 01:21 PM


MVL would be 2nd on the live rating list if he had beat Kramnik today. But their Berlin endgame was hopelessly drawish throughout, it seems - they were way too eager to trade pieces.
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07-11-2016 , 11:57 AM
Thanks. Didn't kniw this was going on. Ding liren's win today on same page reminded me of a Capa game.
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07-11-2016 , 07:53 PM
You know I love you guys. You know that, right? But is there a high traffic chess forum you could recommend?
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07-11-2016 , 08:58 PM
Hmm... The lichess forum isn't 'high traffic' either, but as it's attached to the coolest chess server on the planet, I expect the quality of discussions there to be better than on chess.com and the /r/chess subreddit.
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07-11-2016 , 11:02 PM
Yeah. Nope.
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07-12-2016 , 12:15 AM
I'm an occasional chess player, probably about 1800 rated, play almost entirely blitz on my phone. What's some free chess software (for Windows) that's good to have around? I've been using SCID with Stockfish plugged in for analysis, SCID is OK but a bit clunky.
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07-12-2016 , 01:32 AM
Lucas Chess is fantastic. Severely under-rated.
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07-12-2016 , 09:00 AM
Why don't we just all start posting more here? Seems there are enough solid players that when threads are going up and events are being discussed it's a pretty good time.
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07-13-2016 , 02:12 PM
It has finally happened!!!

Hikaru has beat Magnus in a classically timed game, with Black, mind you!!!

This is Carlsen's big mistake - 21. g4-g5?



I haven't seen any press release yet, but it seems that Magnus overlooked that, after 21... dxe4 22. K~, Black can play 22... exf3! and White can't take the knight because of Qg2. (E.g. 22. Kf2 exf3! 23. gxf6? Qg2+ 24. Ke3 Qe2+ 25. Kf4 e5+) And if 22. Qg3, then the pawn on f3 is taken with check and the knight also gets enough time to escape.

I have no idea why Carlsen was unable to see just a few moves ahead.

Last edited by coon74; 07-13-2016 at 02:36 PM. Reason: neither can I see that far, lol
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07-13-2016 , 03:01 PM
22. Kf2 exf3! 23. gxf6? Qg2+ 24. Ke3 Qe2+ 25. Kf4 e5+ 26. Kf5 Qc2+ 27. Kxe5 Rfe8+ 27. Kd6 (otherwise e.g. Re4+) Bf8+ 28. Kc7 Rec8+ 29. Kb6 Rab8+ 30. Kxa6 Ra8+ 31. Kb7 Rcb8+ 32. Kc7 Qf5 (for Qc8#) 33. Nb6 Qe5+ 34. Kxc6 Qd6#.

What a king hunt! I hope I haven't miscalculated anything (I was doing it with no analysis board, just looking at the diagram).

Edit (upon Stockfish 7 check): oh dear, I missed the 33. Qg5+ equaliser. 32... Qe2 still wins the house. The best defensive 27th move for White is Qe4, but after queens are exchanged, it's still -4 as per Stockfish because Black is so many pawns up.

Anyway, 25... Bxf6 is stronger. I suspected it but was too afraid of calculating that line. Anyway, if Magnus had foreseen the position after move 31 or a bit earlier in the above line, he wouldn't have played 21. g5.

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07-14-2016 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by meekrab
Actual content - White to Play and Mate in 1 ca. 1878
Spoiler:
Actually, White can even mate in 0 - ask Black for a takeback and play Rxb7# instead of axb7.
Here's one more tricky puzzle, composed by Karl Fabel in 1949. White to take 1 move back and then mate in 2.



Fabel is perhaps most known for the following (quite easy) puzzle. White to move and not mate in 1.

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07-14-2016 , 09:25 AM
Spoiler:
Rc6!!


That took me waaaaay longer than I'm comfortable admitting.
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07-14-2016 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mayo
Spoiler:
Rc6!!


That took me waaaaay longer than I'm comfortable admitting.
Spoiler:
Correct! No shame, I sometimes derp a lot too over some things that are simple for others.
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