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04-03-2009, 06:16 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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*** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Hey guys,
The Chess BBV thread is for beats and variance and brags, this one is for low content stuff which is like not important enough elsewhere.
Well reading the rook endings thread reminded me. The only thing in chess that puts me on mega-tilt is when I misplay a rook and pawn ending. If I play the opening badly, fine. If I hang a piece to a tactic, no problem. Other endgames don't do this. But if I mess up a rook endgame, I feel like smashing the board with a huge meteorite rock.
I have no idea why this is, but this is my feelings about rook endings.
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04-03-2009, 07:39 AM
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ɹǝʍoʇpunoɹ
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
I don't hate misplaying rook endings in general, but one that has got me a couple of times is going from a worse position into a rook ending where I am worse but I think it is drawn, thinking I've rescued the half point, then losing anyway.
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04-03-2009, 03:39 PM
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
When you mention a meteorite rock
Do you mean Kryptonite?
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04-03-2009, 04:16 PM
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***: a few bad beats!
Some "bad beats"!
Some weeks ago, I started to play some blitz (only against "bots") at about
5 1 ( much faster, and I wouldn't be able to convert some won endgames ).
Of course, I had a terrible score, but managed some draws and a few
"entertaining" wins against some weaker "bots" ( sure, it's only blitz! ). [ I
hadn't played blitz in literally years, but I do often follow major tournaments
such as Linares, Melody Amber and the World Championships. Besides that,
I like to look at endgame studies from time to time. ]
Enjoy!
bigpooch vs. "bot"
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. d4 exd4
5. Nd5 Be7
6. Bc4 0-0
7. 0-0 Nxe4
8. Re1 Nf6
9. Rxe7 ( recommended by Monson in his book on the Belgrade Gambit )
9... Nxe7
10. Nxf6+ gf6
11. Qxd4 d5
12. Bd3 Ng6 ( I actually think White does not have sufficient compensation )
13. b4!? Re8
14. Bb2 Kg7
15. h4 a5? ( 15...Qd6 and Black seems almost winning )
16. h5 Ne5
17. h6+ Kh8
18. Qh4 Nxf3+
19. gxf3 Re6
20. Kh1 Kg8
21. Rg1+ Kf8
22. Bxh7 Ke7
23. Bg8 axb4
24. h7 Rxa2
25. Bd4 Kd7
26. h8Q Re2
27. Q8xf6 Qxf6
28. Qxf6 Re6
29. Qxf7+ Kc6
30. Qxe6+ Bxe6
31. Bxe6 Rxc2
32. f4 Kb5
33. f5 c5
34. Bg7 Rxf2
35. f6 d4
36. f7 b6
37. f8Q Rxf8
38. Bxf8 Ka4
39. Rb1 Kb5
40. Kg2 etc. 1-0
bigpooch vs "bot"
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 Nc6
4. d4 Bb4
5. Nxe5 Nxe4
6. Qg4 Nxc3
7. Qxg7 Rf8
8. a3 Nxd4
9. axb4 Nxc2+
10. Kd2 Nxa1
11. Kxc3 a5
12. Bc4 ab4+
13. Kd3 d5
14. Bb5+ c6
15. Re1 ( actually, I don't know what is "theory" here )
15...Bf5+
16. Kd2 Be6
17. Nxc6 bxc6
18. Rxe6+ Kd7
19. Rxc6 Qe7
20. Kd1 Ra5
21. Bf4 Rxb5
22. Rc7+ Kd8
23. Rxe7 Kxe7
24. Qe5+ Kd7
25. Qd6+ Ke8
26. Qc6+ Ke7
27. Bd6+ Ke6
28. Bxf8+ Kf5
29. Qxb5 Ke5
30. Qa4 etc. 1-0
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04-03-2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
garcia,
I take it you've studied rook endings thoroughly?
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04-03-2009, 05:25 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Hey I had a random idea..
How about if 2p2 had a chess viewer/replayer, similiar to the poker hand replayer they have.
I don't think it would take much work to make one..
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04-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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ɹǝʍoʇpunoɹ
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Hey I had a random idea..
How about if 2p2 had a chess viewer/replayer, similiar to the poker hand replayer they have.
I don't think it would take much work to make one..
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it wouldn't take a huge amount of work (90% sure such a thing already exists and they would just need to install it and test it), but they really don't like to implement anything like this.
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04-03-2009, 10:02 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
It's so easy to just copy/paste text into WinBoard though.
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04-03-2009, 11:14 PM
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discipline
garcia,
I take it you've studied rook endings thoroughly?
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I think around 50% of my endgame study is rook endings. Goddamn rook endings.
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04-04-2009, 01:35 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by garcia1000
Hey guys,
The Chess BBV thread is for beats and variance and brags, this one is for low content stuff which is like not important enough elsewhere.
Well reading the rook endings thread reminded me. The only thing in chess that puts me on mega-tilt is when I misplay a rook and pawn ending. If I play the opening badly, fine. If I hang a piece to a tactic, no problem. Other endgames don't do this. But if I mess up a rook endgame, I feel like smashing the board with a huge meteorite rock.
I have no idea why this is, but this is my feelings about rook endings.
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This is such a crazy thing to tilt you. Rook endgames are hard. GM's frequently make serious mistakes in rook endgames - as shown in dozens of books highlighting those mistakes. Unless you're tilting over screwing up something simple, this just seems weird to me.
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04-04-2009, 01:42 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by swingdoc
This is such a crazy thing to tilt you. Rook endgames are hard. GM's frequently make serious mistakes in rook endgames - as shown in dozens of books highlighting those mistakes. Unless you're tilting over screwing up something simple, this just seems weird to me.
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Yeah, I know that they're hard but I've studied them a lot. Whenever I mess up I feel like, "omg all that studying.. FOR NOTHING!" and then I get upset. I didn't know GMs frequently make mistakes though, that's good to know.
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04-05-2009, 01:32 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
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04-05-2009, 01:44 AM
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Gah, I just had a sick, sick session. Set over set, aces all-in pre lost against two callers (actually I got dealt aces right after I lost to a higher set, so I open-shoved to make it look like I was tilting), queens all-in preflop against kings (guy seemed loose enough to make the call easy), two pair over two pair, flush over two pair. Ugh!
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04-05-2009, 01:49 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discipline
Gah, I just had a sick, sick session. Set over set, aces all-in pre lost against two callers (actually I got dealt aces right after I lost to a higher set, so I open-shoved to make it look like I was tilting), queens all-in preflop against kings (guy seemed loose enough to make the call easy), two pair over two pair, flush over two pair. Ugh!
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This is the Chess Low Content Thread
So your post is out of line chief.
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04-05-2009, 01:50 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***
@Discipline
Ouch, that really sucks. Sometimes I really hate playing a game with luck involved, but I guess we'd never get any fish otherwise  Hope you have a better session tomorrow.
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