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09-22-2012 , 06:07 PM


That's right. Etudes are super cool! And since I now have a never ending flow of beautiful etudes (given to me by my coach), I thought I should share some of them here if you have some you wanna share, please do post them here!

To start of, this gem:



the usual rules - no computers, answers in spoilers
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09-22-2012 , 06:11 PM
And another one. One could argue about this being an etude, but in any case, it is very aesthetically pleasing

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09-22-2012 , 08:08 PM
whos move is it ?
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09-22-2012 , 08:20 PM
All of the etudes I post will be white to move, unless specifically stated differently

Good question though, I shoulda said that in the OP.
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09-23-2012 , 11:21 AM
is there a difference between etudes and studies?
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09-23-2012 , 11:24 AM
Spoiler:
Second one: 1.Nd3 Ka5 2.b4+ Nxb4 3.Ne5
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09-23-2012 , 01:59 PM
oops forgot a pair of moves, spam ftw
Spoiler:
1.Nd3+ Kb5 2.Nc3+ Ka5 3.b4+ Nxb4 4.Ne5
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09-23-2012 , 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wlrs
oops forgot a pair of moves, spam ftw
Spoiler:
1.Nd3+ Kb5 2.Nc3+ Ka5 3.b4+ Nxb4 4.Ne5
correct!

I think etudes and studies are the same. I knew that etudes probably isn't what it's called in English but I was drawing a blank on the actual name. TY
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09-23-2012 , 04:08 PM
Well, an anagram of "etudes" is "studee" so I think they're the same.
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09-23-2012 , 04:49 PM
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09-24-2012 , 06:05 AM
a lot of french words can be derived from the english words by replacing an st with an et.

state = etat
stranger = etranger
study = etude (not pronounced e-tju-dii).
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09-24-2012 , 07:48 AM
You will be getting 2 more etudes tonight, so hurry up on the solutions
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09-24-2012 , 08:40 AM
study one (i assume white to play and draw here):

Spoiler:
1. Bd6 Qxd6 2. b8=Q Kxb8 (Qxb8 3. Rxh7+ Ka8 (Kb6 4. Rb7+=) 4. Bb7+ Ka7 5. Bc8+) 3. Bh3+!! and perpetual on the first two ranks, if the K goes to a6/b6/c6 we have Rh6=

Last edited by Noir_Desir; 09-24-2012 at 08:44 AM. Reason: typo
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09-24-2012 , 08:44 AM
Is the first one White to play and draw or White to play and win? I have a feeling it might be a draw (due to certain positional features ) but I'm not seeing the big idea yet
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09-25-2012 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Noir_Desir
study one (i assume white to play and draw here):

Spoiler:
1. Bd6 Qxd6 2. b8=Q Kxb8 (Qxb8 3. Rxh7+ Ka8 (Kb6 4. Rb7+=) 4. Bb7+ Ka7 5. Bc8+) 3. Bh3+!! and perpetual on the first two ranks, if the K goes to a6/b6/c6 we have Rh6=
correct sir That 3rd move and the idea behind is definitely a hard one to see, well done!

to wlrs: I don't know what is the correct way of doing it, but when I would solve etudes my coach would just give me the position and tell me who's move is it. Whether to play for a draw or a win is then for you to figure out yourself, just like in the game. I always thought that is the difference between studies and lets say simple tactical problems

If that is not how it should be done lemme know and I'll say whether white draws/wins.
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09-25-2012 , 09:35 AM
Wow, those are beautiful problems. The idea in that second one is really hard to see. Very cool.

To chime in, I like the idea of posting the problem without saying if it's white to win or draw. Even though these problems are compositions, I think it's better practice to figure for OTB situation to figure it out on your own.
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09-25-2012 , 09:47 AM
thx ykw, once i saw the line i gave in the bracket i knew i was on the right track, had to set up the position after the second move on a board though before i saw it...need to practice visualization and/or being less lazy.

looking forward to more studies!
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09-25-2012 , 10:37 AM
You ask and I shall deliver:




and




White to move in both
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09-25-2012 , 10:54 PM
For those wondering:

Quote:
etude - A composition featuring a point of technique but performed because of its artistic merit.
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09-25-2012 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
You ask and I shall deliver:




and




White to move in both
first one's a bit easy, innit?
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09-26-2012 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by airwave16
first one's a bit easy, innit?
Spoiler:
1. Rf5 f2+ 2. Kf1 Ng3+ 3. hxg3 Ka4! 4. Rxe5 stalemate is a very clever refutation of the Verführung. Now the bigger problem is, how to win?


Spoiler:
ah, 4. g4! awesome problem.

Last edited by Noir_Desir; 09-26-2012 at 02:39 AM. Reason: got it
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09-26-2012 , 02:37 AM
meekrab: thanks for the clarifying that
airwave: not quite,
Spoiler:
1.Rf5 f2+ 2.Kf1 Ng3+ 3.hxg3 Ka4 is an idea

Last edited by wlrs; 09-26-2012 at 02:40 AM. Reason: my pony too slow as usual, also got the line wrong at first
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09-26-2012 , 03:15 AM
study two:

Spoiler:
the end will probably be ...f1 = Q 2. Ng1+ K somewhere stalemate, now how to get there?


Spoiler:
ok i found a line, 1. Nd4 Ke1 2. Nf3+ Ke2 3. Nxc3+ Kxf3 4. Ne2 f1=Q+ 5. Ng1+ Not sure if there are any important sidelines though.


nice way to start the day. Keep'em coming!

Last edited by Noir_Desir; 09-26-2012 at 03:21 AM.
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09-26-2012 , 03:33 AM
found some sidelines for 2 which are also beautiful:

Spoiler:
1. Nd4 Ke1 2. Nf3+ Kf1 3. Nxc3 and this time black is stalemated.
2. ...Kd1 3. Nxc3+ Kc2 4. Nd2! and whichever knight is taken, the other one forks the K and the pawn.
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09-26-2012 , 09:55 AM
dunno if this qualifies as an etude but ran across this while doing tactics trainer
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