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Old 05-29-2012, 08:23 AM   #3001
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Re: *** Chess BBV ***

The first game looked like a competition on who could top the opponents next move instead of winning the game. Visually very impressive but at the cost of both sides ignoring king safety.

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:25 AM   #3002
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Sick Resource 24...Nb4!

[Event "GameKnot Blitz"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2012.05.31"]
[Round "-"]
[White "5nowman"]
[Black "adamr123"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Be7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 O-O 7. e3 Nbd7 8. Bd3 dxc4 9. Bxc4 Nb6 10. Bd3 c6 11. O-O Nfd5 12. Bxe7 Qxe7 13. Ne4 f5 14. Nc5 Nf6 15. e4 e5 16. dxe5 Nxe4 17. Nxe4 fxe4 18. Bxe4 Be6 19. Re1 Rad8 20. Qc2 Qf7 21. b3 Bd5 22. Rad1 Qf4 23. Bxd5+ Nxd5 24. Nd4 Nb4 25. Qc4+ Kh8 26. Qxb4 Qxf2+ 27. Kh1 Rf4 28. Re2 0-1
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:29 AM   #3003
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I think 28. Qd2 is the only move after which it looks drawish but I'm not sure
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:35 PM   #3004
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Always fun to mouseslip into an opening you're not familiar with (in my case, played 1...d6 to e4 and meant to play the caro) and still win, even in 5-min.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:27 PM   #3005
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Boo, yet another dream of a perfect T4545 season has died.

http://www.team4545league.org/pgnpla...r.php?id=54996

Now that I'm pretty happy with the Slav against d4, the only malleable place left in my openings is the French. I finally got so sick of being messed with in it that I just started playing the exchange for awhile, and promised myself I'd go back later and relearn to play against it with a fresh start.

Well, it's later, and I booked up a little on the Tarrasch in advance of this game.

Of course, the second I go out of book, I get into trouble.

11. Bg5 is fine as it induces h3, but I think a straight Bf4 looks better in retrospect.

13. a3 is the beginning of the real problems. I love my bishop too much to allow Nb4. That's a two-fold problem. First, the bishop isn't so key to the main theme, which is controlling the e5 square and refusing to allow the pawn on e6 to go forward and free black's pieces. Second, even if I wanted to do keep that bishop against Nb4, Rc1 (planning Bb1 in response to Nb4) is a way better way to do it. I swear, if I removed all a3/h3/a6/h6 moves from my games entirely, it'd do more good than harm.

14. Bh4 just gives black everything he wants. He gets the e5 freeing move in, which I was convinced he didn't want because of the structural problems it creates for him and solves for me. But that's silly, because the piece activity is plenty of compensation, and that's the same sort of plan I was playing for.

15. probably could have been Qb3, there's some interesting stuff there and play remains double-edged.

17. f4 would have been a big improvement. I looked at it and decided Bxb2/Rb1 Bxa3/Rxb7 wasn't enough compensation for the pawn, but I missed that Ra2 instead of b1 traps the bishop so Bxb2 isn't playable.

About a minute after I played Rb1 I realized what was incoming, but it was too late to stop it. I probably would have been better off just playing Kh1 in response and letting him have the pawn, but it was all bad anyway.

It's funny that I've taken some pride lately in how accurate I can play in positions I know, but the moment I get into an opening where my opponent is familiar with themes and I wasn't, I just got crushed. But next time I will be familiar.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:38 PM   #3006
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Kyle, what was the last book move and which side played it?

*Disclaimer* I know virtually no French theory so this might be a completely stupid setup and idea */Disclaimer*

After 11...O-O, what do you/y'all/everyone think about a setup for white involving Re1 and Nf4? Seems pretty natural to me to pressure that e6 pawn with those pieces. Plus, that way we keep the g5 square open for the knight for more pressure on e6 and some on h7 as well. Just thinking out loud here, that might not make any sense at all.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:31 PM   #3007
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0-0 was the last move I remembered from the line I had prepped. Bf4 or Bg5 are considered playable from there.

You can't play 12. Re1 or Nf4 right away because e5 just gets in right away. You really have to do everything you can to clamp down on the e5 square in this line.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:34 PM   #3008
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Brag: Achieved my highest rating on CT today (1936).
Beat: It's 300 points higher than my USCF OTB rating
Variance: Playing in my first slow time control tournament since re-starting competitive chess this weekend.

All three in one. Very nice.
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Old 06-03-2012, 04:18 PM   #3009
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Sigh.....such a promising start gone spoiled. I can, and probably rightfully so, complain about a few factors...but it was just overlooking one simple thing.

Started off 2-0 with wins vs a 1440 and 1640. Here's where it goes downhill. The third round was scheduled for 6pm. After the round, I would have to drive ~1 hour home because it saves $80 instead of getting a hotel room. Fourth round, for some ungodly reason, was scheduled at 9am. My third round didn't end until 11pm! And I lost to a 1700.

First off, what TD schedules a round that early in a big boy tournament (ie not a scholastic)? Terrible. Absolutely terrible. I get there for the fourth round. Some big, fat, old guy who smelled terrible. He was listening to his ipod the whole time. Last time I checked, you're not allowed to do that anymore. I had a better position and just overlooked something. Got pissed and withdrew, wasn't worth staying 4 hours for a game that essentially doesn't count in the tournament standings. That ****ing fat ass bastard. So it'll be probably a loss of ~10 rating points. Sigh.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #3010
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1. Get the hotel room next time. It saves you an hour each way, plus gas and miles on your car. Isn't two hours of your life worth it? Plus you get more sleep, and this will help your performance.

2. I probably wouldn't have played if I saw a 9AM round. It is pretty absurd. But if I did I'd be staying in the hotel.

3. If your opponent is doing something you think shouldn't be allowed, ask the TD. Especially if it is going to bother you thinking about it during the game. Or decide that you don't care and don't let it bother you. Either way.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:03 PM   #3011
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1. Get the hotel room next time. It saves you an hour each way, plus gas and miles on your car. Isn't two hours of your life worth it? Plus you get more sleep, and this will help your performance.

2. I probably wouldn't have played if I saw a 9AM round. It is pretty absurd. But if I did I'd be staying in the hotel.

3. If your opponent is doing something you think shouldn't be allowed, ask the TD. Especially if it is going to bother you thinking about it during the game. Or decide that you don't care and don't let it bother you. Either way.
The one hour drive was not particularly bad at all, and I found it helped me focus more than if I had woken up and just gone to the tournament. The 9am round was a killer though, literally half of the players showed up at least 10 minutes late (my opponent included).

Looking over my games, my real weakness was once again the opening. I was actually ok with black, because I got to play the Schvennigan in round 1 and Najdorf in round 3, and I know those pretty well. I was just lost and confused when I had the white pieces. I don't have an opening repretoire with white and I really need to work on that.

It was overall very fun though. Every game except round 2 had very complex, sharp positions with tactics galore. And I noticed my calculation skills, normally not good, were exceptionally sharp (thanks CT!). I'm going to post my round 3 game and see what you guys think.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:21 PM   #3012
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Brag: I played a flashy queen sacrifice today in a chess.com game:



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Beat: Not in order to win though, just to secure a draw by perpetual.

Variance: It was the last move of a five move combination (that I had seen in advance obv):



Basically, at this point I was just waiting for him to resign when he suddenly uncorked 36. Qh4-h5 on me, a move that I had totally overlooked. The extremely nasty threat is 37. Rxg6+ with a forced mate. After the first shock was over, I found 36... Kf8 37. Rxg6 Rd1+ 38. Kh2 (38. Qxd1 Qxg6 39. Qd6+ Kf7 40. Qe7+ Kg8 41. Qxe6+ is a perpetual too, a White one this time) 38... Qc7+ 39. g3 Rd2+ 40. Kg1 Qh7.

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Old 06-05-2012, 08:03 AM   #3013
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mm why can't I time out on boring games?

Got to an "interesting" endgame after a game full of horrible mistakes on boht sides and now can't play it out

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=51700025
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:16 AM   #3014
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mm why can't I time out on boring games?

Got to an "interesting" endgame after a game full of horrible mistakes on boht sides and now can't play it out

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=51700025
Sucks . Looks like a fairly easy win for white though. Even if you just trade your knight for the pawn, should still be a fairly easy win once you get your king in front of one of the three pawns.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:49 AM   #3015
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Even if you just trade your knight for the pawn, should still be a fairly easy win once you get your king in front of one of the three pawns.
Nope, it'd be an easy win for Black as his king is in front of the pawns. White would need to get all three pawns to 5th rank and his king on 6th (which Black's king will prevent) just to draw.

I think the final position is probably a draw. Black's pawn requires the attention of one or both of White's pieces so it doesn't promote; White needs both pieces to advance his pawns and any attempt to capture the Black pawn would leave his own pawns unprotected.

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