The Grob sounds like a C- Thriller movie.

Hmm, the 1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 Bxg4 3. c4 dxc4 4. Bxb7 line is intriguing. Theoretically almost dead even according to Fritz too. (I can't imagine a 1200 type player passing on the free pawn with development and playing 2. ... c6 very often). Of course after 3. ... e6 I don't like it as much. Meh, nothing looks too good here, unless black screws up, but that's likely enough. I'm going to try it!

LMAO!!!!!

I dropped my queen. Then I dropped a bishop. Then I mated the ****er. Score one for g4!

http://www.ficsgames.com/cgi-bin/sho...11;action=show

[Event "rated blitz match"]
[Site "Free Internet Chess Server"]
[Date "2009.04.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "BobJoeJim"]
[Black "mradu"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1209"]
[BlackElo "0P"]
[ECO "A00"]
[TimeControl "300+5"]

1. g4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bg2 Bc5 4. e3 d6 5. d4 exd4 6. exd4 Bb6 7. Nc3 Bxg4 8. h3 Bh5 9. Qe2+ Nge7 10. Be3 Bxd4 11. Nxd4 Bxe2 12. Ndxe2 O-O 13. O-O-O Qd7 14. Be4 Rab8 15. Rdg1 a5 16. Bh6 Ng6 17. h4 gxh6 18. h5 b5 19. hxg6 hxg6 20. Rxh6 b4 21. Nd5 Qe6 22. Rgh1 f6 23. Rxg6+ Kf7 24. Rh7+ Ke8 25. Nxc7+ {mradu resigns} 1-0

Edit: In my defense I feel I should mention that I was playing this game in class, while trying to also pay attention to the lecture. I definitely suck at chess, but don't normally drop queens willy nilly.

No way. Have you ever taught 1100 players? Maybe you just disagree with my post on this.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean about the "intricacies of black's spatial advantage." He just has free development, good central presence, and a weakness free position.

btw I think it's funny that we're arguing about the Grob's expected score in games between 1100 players

In a live tournament 5 minute blitz game, my 1800 rated opponent, who was a known Grob enthusiast with over 30 years of USCF rated play, played the following:

1.g4 c6 2.f4 e5 3.f5 Qh4#

After I mated him, he was just stunned for a second, then he said "That's the second time I did that!"

LOL. Wow.

LMAO me 2.

and also a hearty LOL at TimM's Qh4# mateskies.

lmao @ 2nd time.

TimM = best post of the thread.

LOL.

I thought that was kind of a cute game. The second time part had me nearly spitting out my coffee.

Also, RE: QuickFetus - I think BobJoeJim made the best point there is. An 1100 isn't even going to play 2. .. c6 hardly ever so the whole thing is very academic.

Oh god Neitzche was right. I learn a little bit of opening theory and next thing I know I'm crushing a 2300 in the botvinnik semi-slav 30 moves in without playing a single new move.

i remember how i beat a 2100 rated opponent in the dragon with a line until mate right from Chris Ward's book except for some minor move order changes. Felt like one of my sweetest wins even if my own input was minimal.

What is proper etiqutte here? This is a 60/60 simul with IM milanovic Vojislav on the ICC.

Felt like we had a close game going but then he starts getting into some time pressure. I assume is the reason for his blunder 28. Rd8.

A few moves later he's down to 10 seconds and doesn't even bother moving and just asked for draw. Should I just flag him there? I don't believe he was going to make his next move so I couldn't stall my time (i had plenty) for him to finish other games.

Anyways the game.

[Event "ICC"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2009.04.30"]
[White "voja"]
[Black "jkelsey"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2411"]
[BlackElo "1642"]
[ECO "B40"]
[Opening "Sicilian defense"]
[TimeControl "3600+60"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d3 Nc6 4. g3 g6 5. d4 cxd4
6. Nxd4 Bg7 7. Nb5 d5 8. exd5 exd5 9. Qxd5 Be6 10. Qd6 Be5
11. Qxd8+ Rxd8 12. c3 Nge7 13. Nd2 a6 14. Na3 b5 15. Bg2 O-O
16. O-O b4 17. cxb4 Nxb4 18. Ndc4 Bg7 19. Bg5 Rfe8 20. Rfd1 Rxd1+
21. Rxd1 h6 22. Nd6 hxg5 23. Nxe8 Bxb2 24. Nb1 Bxa2 25. Nd2 a5
26. Ne4 Kf8 27. N8f6 Kg7 28. Rd8 Bxf6 29. Nxf6 Kxf6 30. Ra8 Nec6
1/2-1/2

definitely flag him. You're probably winning the final position, the only person being rude here is him.

What time control was he playing? If he had a 60s increment too then it's his own problem to keep time for all the games.

When I read the post I thought it would be some ridiculous rook ending where it's probably drawn but unclear enough for either side to play on. In this position it's not even an issue, you wouldn't accept a draw from anyone else here so it's not like you are just taking advantage of his time trouble.

lol, does "walter" on ICC have issues? I played him a game in the QGA. Gave away a pawn early on and had a dominating position, blundered in the endgame and gave the game to him. He tossed a few words after the game, I retorted.

And he's just totally lost it since then with tons of barely coherent messages bragging to me about his girl, "a well known topmodel" and other some such. Never seen somebody go on chess tilt so hard, and after WINNING. lol

You obviously have not played me.

3 girls, who all passed on modeling just to be kind and give the other girls a chance? Instead deciding to live in your $50million mansion on the beach in Monaco?

Ok, so which one of you is walter? lol

Received a comically large number of new messages from him today including:

Beat IM Voja in the Simul again.

[Event "ICC 30 30 u"]
[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
[Date "2009.05.08"]
[Round "1"]
[White "voja"]
[Black "jkelsey"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ICCResult "White resigns"]
[WhiteElo "2411"]
[BlackElo "1632"]
[Opening "Sicilian defense"]
[ECO "B40"]
[NIC "SI.43"]
[Time "13:21:46"]
[TimeControl "1800+30"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d3 Nc6 4. g3 d5 5. Nbd2 Bd6 6. Bg2 Nge7 7. O-O O-O 8.
Qe2 b5 9. c3 a5 10. d4 cxd4 11. Nxd4 Ba6 12. Re1 b4 13. Qh5 Nxd4 14. cxd4
Nc6 15. e5 Nxd4 16. exd6 Nc2 17. Nf3 Nxe1 18. Nxe1 Qxd6 19. Bf4 Qb6 20. Qg4
Qd4 21. Rd1 Qxb2 22. Nf3 Be2 23. Re1 Rac8 24. Be5 Qxe5 25. Nxe5 Bxg4 26.
Nxg4 Rc2 27. Ne3 Rxa2 28. Rc1 b3 29. Rc7 b2 30. Rb7 Ra1+ 31. Bf1 b1=Q 32.
Rxb1 Rxb1 33. Kg2 a4 34. Nc2 Rc8 35. Na3 Ra1 36. Nb5 a3 37. Bd3 a2
{White resigns}
0-1

i suck at poker and am just starting to play. i got in this position earlier and had no fkn clue how to proceed. i'm white and it's my turn. pls halp

I'd recommend folding

i also suck at chess. and typing correct words.

Sorry, meant to post a real suggestion after that but got distracted. You have 2 goals in this position:

1. Run that passed g pawn up to queen
2. Slow black's passed a pawn from it's rush to queen

The specifics aren't super important in this position imo but you should know that rook + pawn(s) vs rook + pawn(s) are pretty darn drawish. I'd personally play 1. Rd8 Kb7 2. Re8 a4 3. Re1 a3 4. g5 etc. Probably a draw but this sort of idea should give black ways to screw up.

1. Rd8 Kb7 2. Rd7+ Kb6 3. ???

draw. Nothing wrong with that line, I just recommended one that gave black a chance to lose. A draw is almost certainly the correct result from that position.