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View Poll Results: Have You Beat A Computer Program On Expert?
I've never beaten a computer program on expert 19 65.52%
I've won one time on expert 4 13.79%
I win at least 1/4 of my games against the computer 2 6.90%
I win about half my games against the computer 0 0%
I win the majority of my games against the computer 2 6.90%
I always win or tie against the computer 2 6.90%
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:12 AM   #1
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Beating A Computer

Today when I woke up I was determined to beat the computer at chess on chess.com. I'm a decent chess player but not great but I realized what might be making me not great. So I decided to ignore almost everything about the openings and to just create a position that I liked instead of following the opening verses the computer.

I won! Instead of trying to "make the right move" I decided before I played what my general strategy would be. That strategy was that I would always open with the queen side pawn and I would always castle from the king side. Then I would use my bishops to point both of them toward the king side. Then I would develop the rest of my pieces to the center of the board to try to control it.

What ended up happening is that the computer gave me tons of potential sacrifices that I could make to gain an eventual positional advantage. It was awesome and I only played one game to do it.

I set up a bunch of nasty pins. Anyway it was a pretty awesome feeling.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:22 AM   #2
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Re: Beating A Computer

I've only played the chess.com expert computer about 3 times but never won. I also spent about 5 seconds on each move
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:31 AM   #3
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Re: Beating A Computer

Solid poll.

You realize that Houdini or Rybka or Fritz or countless other programs would beat the chess.com engine 1000000 - 0? At the same time, chess.com engine would beat some random Iphone App 100000 - 0.

Therefore, care to specify what do you mean when you say "computer"?
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:37 AM   #4
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I assumed he meant the chess.com one as that was what he was referring to in his op.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:38 AM   #5
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In fact.. I'm going to go play it now and post the pgn just for laughs
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:39 AM   #6
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If that's the case, I always win against computer
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:54 AM   #7
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Re: Beating A Computer

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Solid poll.

You realize that Houdini or Rybka or Fritz or countless other programs would beat the chess.com engine 1000000 - 0? At the same time, chess.com engine would beat some random Iphone App 100000 - 0.

Therefore, care to specify what do you mean when you say "computer"?
I guess I mean the chess.com computer program. It's not big blue I guess but to me it might as well be. Anyway well it just feels pretty good to know that it's possible for me to beat it. What felt even better was that I didn't have to get to the endgame to do it. I won in 19 moves.

It's pretty unlikely that I'll put the time into the game to get really good. My second best game was I beat Chessmaster for playstation 2 on 2200. What was really weird about that game was that I was able to put the game back to the very beginning and remember every single move I made to replay it for someone else.

So it's weird sometimes my memory is awesome and I play super sharp but most of the other times I play I have a general sense of anger and boredom while I play. If the game gets too tedious sometimes I lose focus.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:17 AM   #8
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Yep, standard mauling.

[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2011.02.23"]
[White "Player"]
[Black "Computer - Hard"]
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 c6 4. f4 Qa5 5. Bd3 e5 6. Nf3 exd4 7. Nxd4 Qb4 8. Nf3 Bg4 9. O-O Qc5+ 10. Kh1 Bxf3 11. Qxf3 Nfd7 12. Bd2 Be7 13. Ne2 O-O 14. Bc3 Rd8 15. Rae1 Na6 16. a3 Nc7 17. b4 Qb6 18. e5 d5 19. Nd4 Ne6 20. Nf5 Bf8 21. Qh3 h6 22. g4 c5 23. Rb1 c4 24. Be2 g6 25. Nd6 d4 26. Be1 Bxd6 27. exd6 Qxd6 28. Qxh6 d3 29. Bc3 Nd4 30. Bxd4 Qxd4 31. cxd3 cxd3 32. Bf3 Nf6 33. f5 Nxg4 34. Bxg4 Qxg4 35. fxg6 Qe4+ 36. Kg1 fxg6

Now off to do something that might actually improve my game such as sitting down and thinking about moves

I think b4 was where it all started going wrong. Certainly ended up being where it caused me to break down.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:19 AM   #9
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[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2011.02.23"]
[White "Player"]
[Black "Computer - Hard"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c4 cxd4 5. Qxd4 Nc6 6. Qf4 Bb4+ 7. Bd2 Nge7 8. Qg3 O-O 9. Nc3 d4 10. Ne4 Bxd2+ 11. Kxd2 Nf5 12. Qf4 Qa5+ 13. Kd1 Nxe5 14. g4 Ne7 15. c5 N7g6 16. Qg3 Rd8 17. f4 Nxg4 18. Qxg4 f5 19. Qg2 fxe4 20. Qxe4 Qxc5 21. Rc1 Qb4 22. Bc4 Kh8 23. h4 Qxb2 24. h5 Nf8 25. h6 Bd7 26. Qe5 b5 27. Qxg7#

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Old 02-23-2011, 10:22 AM   #10
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[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2011.02.23"]
[White "Player"]
[Black "Computer - Hard"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. d3 d5 2. a3 Nc6 3. e3 Nf6 4. h3 e5 5. g3 Be6 6. Bg2 Be7 7. b3 Qc8 8. Bb2 Kd7 9. Nd2 Kd6 10. Ne2 h6 11. d4 exd4 12. Nxd4 Nxd4 13. Bxd4 b5 14. Bb2 c5 15. c4 bxc4 16. bxc4 Kc6 17. Bc3 Rd8 18. f4 Rb8 19. Qa4+ Kb7 20. Rb1+ Ka8 21. Kf2 Rxb1 22. Rxb1 Bd7 23. Qa5 Bc6 24. Be5 Qd7 25. cxd5 Bxd5 26. Nc4 Ng4+ 27. hxg4 Bxg2 28. Nb6+ Kb7 29. Nxd7+ Kc8 30. Kxg2 Kxd7 31. Rd1+ Kc6 32. Rxd8 Bxd8 33. Qxd8 f6 34. Bc3 Kb5 35. Qd5 Ka4 36. Qxc5 a6 37. Qb4#

No idea why it moved it's King from e8 to d7 to d6...

and that's level "Hard" lol

Anti-computer opening chess ftw!
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:17 AM   #11
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[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2011.02.23"]
[White "Player"]
[Black "Computer - Hard"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. d4 d5 2. Bf4 Bf5 3. c4 dxc4 4. e3 Nc6 5. Nc3 e5 6. dxe5 Nb4 7. e4 Be6 8. Nf3 Qxd1+ 9. Rxd1 Rd8 10. Rxd8+ Kxd8 11. Nd4 Nd3+ 12. Bxd3 cxd3 13. Nxe6+ fxe6 14. Kd2 Ne7 15. Kxd3 Nc6 16. Rd1 Kc8 17. Ke2 Bb4 18. Bg3 Bc5 19. h4 Rf8 20. h5 Rf7 21. f3 Bd4 22. f4 Bc5 23. Kf3 Nxe5+ 24. Ke2 Nc4 25. Bh4 g6 26. Rd8#

Just after things went good for the computer, he suddenly moves instantly and allows mate in 1. wtf?
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:18 AM   #12
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Re: Beating A Computer

it started with 1.Nf3 g5!! vs me
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:13 PM   #13
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Clearly the moral of the story is I suck :P
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:48 PM   #14
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Nah, the engine goes on streaks of playing reasonably well, mixed with the occasional ??
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:29 PM   #15
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speaking of computers and engines etc.. does anybody find that the icc's crafy engine sucks for post game analysis? Just played back through a game where it evaluated me as +0.48 at depth 16 (175m nodes) then after I played my move it insta-evaluated me as +2.85 and it was a simple capture it wasn't anything complicated :/
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