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2016 World Chess Championship Candidates Tournament

View Poll Results: Who Will Challenge Magnus Carlsen for the 2016 Chess World Championship?

Viswanathan Anand

6 15.79%

Anish Giri

1 2.63%

Levon Aronian

3 7.89%

Fabiano Caruana

16 42.11%

Sergey Karjakin

5 13.16%

Hikaru Nakamura

4 10.53%

Peter Svidler

2 5.26%

Veselin Topalov

1 2.63%

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03-22-2016 , 02:37 AM

#151

TimTimSalabim

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Originally Posted by PocketInfinities

This site has Anand at 2.3-1. He was 7-1 before the tournament started.

https://www.marathonbet.com/en/betting/Chess/

If I'm reading that right Caruana is almost 3-1. Good value imo.

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03-22-2016 , 07:32 AM

#152

Shandrax

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Originally Posted by ScottTK

Ugh, Aronian losing to Anand was the only result I definitely didn't want to see.

Anand actually played a full game to win this one. It wasn't just prep like his win against Svidler. So far he was able to exploit his current rating to the maximum.

Somehow this story reminds me of Naiditsch winning Dortmund in 2005. He had the lowest rating, they all took risks trying to beat him and he punished every single one of them. Anand pulled off a similar feat in the last cycle, but I doubt that he can repeat it. I predict that he will draw all of his remaining games and that shouldn't be enough to qualify.

Btw, did they check his wig for any hidden devices yet?

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03-22-2016 , 01:45 PM

#153

bautzen

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Btw, did they check his wig for any hidden devices yet?

As a chess noob, this is actually something I am wondering about.
How long will it take until somebody is busted in a high profile match with a vibrating implant or whatever that is transmitting computer moves? Or would it be too blatant as the choice of moves would clearly be "computer derived"?

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03-22-2016 , 02:56 PM

#154

loafes

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I recall hearing about an instance where a player was believed to have had a hidden device in their giant Afro, this was quite a few years back and I think it was thought to be a mini radio or something

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03-22-2016 , 04:18 PM

#155

buffyslayer1

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Originally Posted by bautzen

Long time ago now (prob around 2002) when I played competitively I recall a player in a uk tournament got disqualified and I think banned for life. He had a handheld palm pilot hidden in his jacket with fritz (whatever version it was) running on it.

Think that might have been the first instance of it happening might not have made much of a splash since he was pretty lowly rated. Got pretty suspicious when he crushed his category though not sure how he was caught exactly.

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03-22-2016 , 04:45 PM

#156

jalfrezi

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Hope you're not thinking what I'm thinking.

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03-22-2016 , 04:46 PM

#157

Shandrax

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03-22-2016 , 04:56 PM

#158

Sugar Nut

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http://gambit.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...ke-hands/?_r=0

Does Topalov hate all Russians? Kramnik all Bulgarians? Does Cheparinov hate the English (which would at least be somewhat understandable, because, hey, it's the English. And represented in this case by that hideous mother****er Short, as well)?

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03-22-2016 , 05:06 PM

#159

loafes

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Haven't read the story yet as I'm at work, but someone thought that you can hide fritz in a lip balm?

Also sexism is ripe (percentage wise) in the chess community. I see cases of players withdrawing from tournaments just because they lose to a girl or claiming females need their own boards to lay at etc

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03-22-2016 , 05:08 PM

#160

jalfrezi

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I sped read it and it seemed to me that someone was saying a player hid Fritz up her vagina which is why someone else refused to shake her hand. Or something.

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03-22-2016 , 05:10 PM

#161

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by loafes

Haven't read the story yet as I'm at work, but someone thought that you can hide fritz in a lip balm?

Rybka. And I was being a bit hyperbolic there, as well. She was accused (baselessly as per the information available), for having a device in her lip balm that would transmit Rybka lines to her during the game. Not an actual Rybka in her lip balm.

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03-22-2016 , 05:14 PM

#162

Snoopy5

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kasparov punked her

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03-22-2016 , 05:27 PM

#163

Snoopy5

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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin

Can you please expound on this statement?

he cheated her in a chess game

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03-22-2016 , 05:32 PM

#164

Sugar Nut

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I guess I could link you to the "Causation does not mean correlation" wiki page. And, while we're at it, to Occam's Razor, too.

You think there's a lot of sexism in the chess community, therefore when a man accuses a woman of cheating it's because of sexism. Occam's Razor says that he thinks that person is cheating.

Similarly I should link him to it, too. He observes Rudolf playing very good chess. Therefore he assumes there must be Rybka in her lip balm lol.

Occam's Razor says, she's playing good chess.

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03-22-2016 , 05:39 PM

#165

Mayo

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This thread has gone off the rails even harder than Team Hikaru.

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03-22-2016 , 05:45 PM

#166

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin

I am well aware of causation, correlation, and I shave with Occam's Razor quite often.

Apparently not. Anyways, I'm done here. While we're probably going to have to agree to disagree, I sincerely hope we're together on the most important bit of this discussion. **** the English!

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03-22-2016 , 06:00 PM

#167

The Yugoslavian

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AIM — I sure hope so. I'm very much on Team Caruana now. He gets white vs. Anand tomorrow which could be a huge game. Unfortunately he has black in the last round vs. Karjakin. That is gonna be a tough game if he needs to win it. Hopefully he can take out Svidler in round 13 as that's the most likely point he can pick up from here on out. But I don't see Karjakin with any likely losses from here on out (maybe vs. Anand in rd 11) so Caruana may need another win, perhaps vs. Anand tomorrow and hope Karjakin breaks even the rest of the way.

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03-22-2016 , 07:06 PM

#168

TomCowley

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If Karjakin draws against everybody else, Caruana really needs to beat Anand tomorrow or Karjakin in R13- only picking up a win against Svidler won't cut it for tiebreaks.

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03-22-2016 , 08:17 PM

#169

Plsmrshenry

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I'm a total chess noob but starting to get fascinated with the characters at the highest level and enjoy watching high level YouTube videos of quick games and I've been following this tourney daily. Crazy two of the lower rated guys are leading however this seems to be a case where it's less about rating and more of a specific match up thing where Vishy seems to still do quite well. How big of an underdog will any of the potential winners be to Carlson. Like 3-1 dog or is it even worse like 8-1 or higher

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03-22-2016 , 08:35 PM

#170

Snoopy5

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Hikaru would be the biggest underdog I'm guessing.

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03-22-2016 , 08:49 PM

#171

All-inMcLovin

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Originally Posted by Snoopy5

Hikaru would be the biggest underdog I'm guessing.

The chances that he has a 2p2 account and has read this thread are very high.

Uh.. Touch move.

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03-22-2016 , 11:21 PM

#172

The Yugoslavian

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Originally Posted by TomCowley

If Karjakin draws against everybody else, Caruana really needs to beat Anand tomorrow or Karjakin in R13- only picking up a win against Svidler won't cut it for tiebreaks.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.

In terms of carlsen vs. whoever, I assume the odds would be relatively similar to last match? Those can probably be looked up. Maybe like 80% to win the match? That's a complete guess lol.