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View Poll Results: Who Will Challenge Magnus Carlsen for the 2016 Chess World Championship?

Viswanathan Anand

6 15.79%

Anish Giri

1 2.63%

Levon Aronian

3 7.89%

Fabiano Caruana

16 42.11%

Sergey Karjakin

5 13.16%

Hikaru Nakamura

4 10.53%

Peter Svidler

2 5.26%

Veselin Topalov

1 2.63%

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03-17-2016 , 09:16 PM

#101

lkasigh

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Originally Posted by JSLigon

I didn't mean saying j'adoube and then randomly touching pieces, as amusing as that might be. But what I was referring to is a player making j'adoube the first step in their process of making a move. They intend to move the piece, but every once in a while they might have second thoughts at the moment they touch it, and if they said j'adoube, they're covered. Or if they want to try some gamesmanship stuff where they say j'adoube (as always) then touch a piece to see how the opponent reacts before deciding whether to make the move or not.

I'm guessing the referee would put a stop to this pretty quickly, but was wondering if there was any rule against j'adoube abuse.

There's a rule against annoying the opponent, which would likely cover it. Realistically it sounds like a silly waste of mental energy that would in no way worth the benefit of the one time in ten thousand where you avoid making a fingerslip.

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03-17-2016 , 09:32 PM

#102

JSLigon

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Originally Posted by lkasigh

Yeah that makes sense. I didn't know there was a rule against annoying the opponent, but there kind of has to be I suppose.

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03-18-2016 , 03:04 AM

#103

Shandrax

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The position was technically winning for Levon, with or without j'adoube.

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03-18-2016 , 08:45 AM

#104

lkasigh

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Apparently Levon mixed up the position - with the pawn on h4 it's drawn (but requiring accurate defense), but with the pawn on g4 White would have been winning.

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03-18-2016 , 01:43 PM

#105

coon74

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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin

Mods shouldn't be allowed to troll the forum they mod in.

St. Patrick's Day is an exception

I loved it how Alexandra said 'Oy-oy-oy!', which means roughly 'Oops-oops-oops!' in Russian.

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03-18-2016 , 02:51 PM

#106

Shandrax

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It looks like the winning method demonstrated by Levon wasn't that winning after all.

Btw, Alexandra is a babe

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03-18-2016 , 03:32 PM

#107

Rei Ayanami

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Nah, like all the girls these days, she just memorizes thousands of outfit combinations found by a search engine.

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03-18-2016 , 08:16 PM

#108

All-inMcLovin

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Originally Posted by Shandrax

It looks like the winning method demonstrated by Levon wasn't that winning after all.

Btw, Alexandra is a babe

My friend thinks Aronian may have been trying not to stick it to Naka by pointing out his major error in a drawn position.

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03-18-2016 , 08:21 PM

#109

Mayo

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As a low-rated player, the lesson I'm taking here is that rook endgames are essentially impossible.

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03-18-2016 , 09:10 PM

#110

The Yugoslavian

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I'm pretty sure players of all ratings would think that too. Maybe except Magnus.

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03-19-2016 , 05:53 AM

#111

Shandrax

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Aronian is just the master of trashtalking. His analysis in the postgame-show seemed to be rather convincing, so Miro and Sasha didn't dare to dispute it, or let's say, they didn't want to ask questions that may leave them looking like "children".

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03-19-2016 , 06:47 AM

#112

All-inMcLovin

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Originally Posted by Shandrax

Okay.

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03-19-2016 , 06:47 AM

#113

Sugar Nut

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03-19-2016 , 07:54 AM

#114

Shandrax

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Sasha got replaced by "Ne-pom-ni-she", at least for today.

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03-19-2016 , 07:57 AM

#115

Shandrax

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My predictions:

Svidler-Caruana = (forced) draw
Karjakin-Aronian = draw
Naka-Topa = 1:0
Giri-Anand = 1:0 (although it's close: 55% win, 45% draw)

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03-19-2016 , 10:02 AM

#116

Shandrax

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Guess I overestimated Giri once again. I thought he is a grinder with white and would keep it alive until Anand blunders, but of course he bailed out made a draw on the first possibility.

To be fair, he admitted that he got caught out of prep by Anand and didn't want to risk having to face an engine in a complicated position.

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03-19-2016 , 10:35 AM

#117

lkasigh

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Wow Topalov is showing some fantastic ideas in today's game. Will be a pity if it doesn't work.

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03-19-2016 , 11:50 AM

#118

Shandrax

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Topa's idea was absolutely awesome and it's just a case of tough luck that it didn't work.

In the other game we somehow know already that Svidler won't be able to convert.

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03-19-2016 , 12:35 PM

#119

Shandrax

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Once again Peter has technical problems. Karjakin for instance is very strong in R+B vs. R+N, so I am sure he would have scored the full point easily.

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03-19-2016 , 01:41 PM

#120

QuantumCage

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Originally Posted by Shandrax

Topa's idea was absolutely awesome and it's just a case of tough luck that it didn't work.

There was at least a draw available for black at move 31. It took me about 15 tries before I guessed correctly.

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03-19-2016 , 02:35 PM

#121

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

This just in: Nakamura is a ****. Oh, wait. Everybody knew that already. Carry on, then.

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03-19-2016 , 04:22 PM

#122

TomCowley

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

I probably touched the king for a second, but in the moment it didn't feel like it.

LOL what a complete ****head. Obviously he KNOWS he touched the king, otherwise he would have disputed the ruling harder in some fashion at the time and certainly would have watched the video later.

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03-19-2016 , 05:00 PM

#123

lkasigh

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Originally Posted by QuantumCage

There was at least a draw available for black at move 31. It took me about 15 tries before I guessed correctly.

A draw would have been a fair result. It seemss that Topalov thought he deserved more and that's what led him to overpress.

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03-19-2016 , 05:06 PM

#124

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by TomCowley

LOL what a complete ****head. Obviously he KNOWS he touched the king, otherwise he would have disputed the ruling harder in some fashion at the time and certainly would have watched the video later.

And then he goes on to playing the victim of "Levon making it personal".

Showing some self respect and admitting he ****ed up would be the way to go. Not commenting on it, meh, whatever. But accusing his opponent for playing by the rules? Seriously, **** him.

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03-19-2016 , 10:22 PM

#125

BTirish

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

He even tries to make it sound like he was the bigger man by letting it go!

And describing how long he "brushed" the king as "touching it for a second or two" is also wonderful. Two seconds is an eternity.

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