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11-30-2016 , 06:37 PM

#176

The Yugoslavian

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I think they are both semi-broken at this point. I can't think of anything else to explain what's going on.

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11-30-2016 , 06:37 PM

#177

A.Ertbjerg

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And it's not like Ra1 was the only winning move either.

Nxg2 wins easily as well.

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11-30-2016 , 06:40 PM

#178

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

inb4 1. ... c5

Called it!

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11-30-2016 , 07:16 PM

#179

coon74

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Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg

And it's not like Ra1 was the only winning move either.

Nxg2 wins easily as well.

Yeah, I guess, Magnus saw Nxg2 too (an Arabian mate threat in the 39. Qe2 Nh4 40. Qxb2 Rxb2+ line, yum) but he surely also saw that Ra1 was winning both the queen (for a rook) and eventually the bishop because the mating attack was so strong.

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11-30-2016 , 07:44 PM

#180

Rei Ayanami

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Very cute ending!

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11-30-2016 , 07:44 PM

#181

coon74

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Qh6!!11!!1! What a brilliant finish for the books and Carlsen's birthday present to himself!

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11-30-2016 , 07:44 PM

#182

A.Ertbjerg

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Qh6+!

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11-30-2016 , 07:45 PM

#183

Sugar Nut

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Thank ****!

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11-30-2016 , 07:46 PM

#184

TimTimSalabim

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sweet mate

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11-30-2016 , 07:46 PM

#185

Dynasty

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A Queen sacrifice to clinch a world championship is a great ending.

Though, the game was won even without the flashy ending.

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11-30-2016 , 07:58 PM

#186

coon74

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Fun fact: the tiebreaks were illegally broadcast on Youtube (with hundreds of viewers) by a Russian FM whom I used to beat at the local chess club when we were both in middle school. PJSalt

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11-30-2016 , 08:13 PM

#187

DrChesspain

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Originally Posted by coon74

Qh6!!11!!1! What a brilliant finish for the books and Carlsen's birthday present to himself!

It was still a great finish even without the blunder that led to the queen sac, since if Black had played ...Bf8 instead of ...Kh7, White still mates (eventually) after Rxf8+, followed by Rxf7+.

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11-30-2016 , 08:51 PM

#188

The Yugoslavian

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Thank goodness. I don't think I could handle karjakin as works champ. Magnus did a great job keeping his composure after game two. Seemed like a recipe for him to overpress like the game he lost.

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11-30-2016 , 10:07 PM

#189

coon74

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Ironically, there's one more way Carlsen's win in the 4th tiebreak game is historic - it has made him the first player to ever have a rapid rating above 2900 (he's now 2906).

As far as I understand, 4 players achieved a blitz rating above 2900 in their careers: Carlsen (2948 at peak), Grischuk (2923), Nakamura and Karjakin (both 2906).

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12-01-2016 , 08:23 AM

#190

loafes

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Originally Posted by coon74

This must be the real reason he allowed it to go to tie breaks

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12-01-2016 , 11:30 AM

#191

All-inMcLovin

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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian

Didn't someone say Magnus will quit chess? Becoming more and more possible. There aren't even words to describe him missing wins like 5x or something in the same game with different ideas.

It's hard to watch this tbh. K is going to be champ. Put in a magician.

I said Magnus might quit chess.

Sick finish with Qh6+!

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12-02-2016 , 05:38 PM

#192

boneku

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Hey, does someone knows where could i watch the games in png or similar? Other than worldchess.com i mean. Thanks!

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12-02-2016 , 05:53 PM

#193

DrChesspain

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Originally Posted by boneku

Hey, does someone knows where could i watch the games in png or similar? Other than worldchess.com i mean. Thanks!

Both chessbase.com and chess.com have free articles with grandmaster analysis of all of the games.

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12-02-2016 , 08:55 PM

#194

boneku

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Originally Posted by DrChesspain

Both chessbase.com and chess.com have free articles with grandmaster analysis of all of the games.

Thanks! I ll take a look!

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02-26-2022 , 03:30 PM

#195

MinusEV

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

Obviously I don't care for Putin - it's just that Karjakin seems like such a sweet guy that I can't help but root for him.

I have chess heros like Nimzowitch, Kasparov and Magnus who are pretty much the exact opposite of Karjakin.

My favourite chess-story is Nimzo getting up on the table and shouting "Gegen diesen Idioten muss Ich verlieren!" when losing to Sämisch, and I love Kasparovs huge ego and Carlsens arrogance, because they so they back up their arrogance with skill and superiority.

So chess-wise, Karjakin is very unlike all the other chess-idols I have. It's just that he's such a sweet, lovable underdog of chess.

Bringing this back to admit I was wrong and those who back then spoke against Karjakin were right.

I'm sorry. Karjakins nonsense in the past few days clearly prove me an idiot for thinking he was just a charming nerd with casual ties to Putin.

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02-28-2022 , 05:23 PM

#196

The Yugoslavian

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

Well, back then only Crimea was a reference and Karjakin wasn't too outspoken at the time iirc. His recent posts only surprised me in that they were completely unnecessary and he very easily could have just kept chilling in Dubai on vacation high-fiving local taxi drivers without ruining his career.

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03-04-2022 , 03:11 PM

#197

MinusEV

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Originally Posted by The Yugoslavian

Yes, him going out of his way to defend Putin and the war when he could've just shut up is what really surprises me too.

He does not have the excuse of being someone who has a wrong view of things because he's only exposed to Putins propaganda either - for someone with full access to the actual truth of what is happening to be defending Putin these days is just evil.

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