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09-20-2015 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
Either way, it's another victory for Nakamura and his utter lack of class.
I think he was responding to this, which I also thought seemed weird.
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09-20-2015 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sholar
I mean, not sure this is an example of "lacking class" but, come on, of course he played a role in this. There's a rule, he didn't follow it.

I don't think this is a huge deal, by the way, but Naka is a professional, he knows the rules, and this definitely is faster than using one hand.


I think he was responding to this, which I also thought seemed weird.

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Originally Posted by RoundTower
Either way, it's another victory for Nakamura and his utter lack of class.
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09-20-2015 , 04:48 PM
betting against Mamedyarov and Svidler seems pretty good right now (marathon bet)
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09-21-2015 , 09:42 AM
Nakamura makes the final 8, the farthest he has made it in a World Cup/KO
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09-21-2015 , 11:09 AM
Wei needs to Ding Liren to slip in a tablebase draw to hold on. GO.

DING LIREN SLIPS.

Last edited by Rei Ayanami; 09-21-2015 at 11:14 AM.
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09-21-2015 , 11:24 AM
Wei Yi now 7.1% to reach the finals!!! After tomorrow's tie breaks he'll either be about 19% or exactly 0%.
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09-21-2015 , 11:37 AM
Candidates need Wei Yi. They also needed So, but that ship just sank, .
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09-21-2015 , 12:58 PM
So is reasonably likely as a wildcard, right? Since it's rumoured the candidates will be in the US.
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09-21-2015 , 01:01 PM
The tablebase draw looks brutal, I'd rather try to hold R vs RB any day. Not sure about the play before that, did both players show unexpectedly poor technique for 2750, or is it just that rook endings are hard?
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09-21-2015 , 01:06 PM
They were both in time trouble in the ending, almost exclusively to increments at one point.
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09-21-2015 , 01:12 PM
I imagine any game is hard at this point in the tournament playing basically off of increment.

Will be very interesting to see if Wei can pull it out tomorrow.

I guess So could make it as a wild card, although he rating has been dipping. If he doesn't rebound I assume they'd just go with a higher rated player. I mean, Fabi and Naka are both in it already, right? Seems a bit messed up for the wild card to be another US player if there are several young non-US players with higher ratings at that point who hadn't qualified yet.
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09-21-2015 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
So is reasonably likely as a wildcard, right? Since it's rumoured the candidates will be in the US.
I feel like those rumors have been pretty well put to rest. There was an interview where Nakamura flat out said that there was no bid from St. Louis, and while it's certainly possible that there is and he doesn't know about it, or that there is, he knows about it, and the statement was misdirection, I haven't heard much since then to indicate that Rex has placed, or will place, a bid.

If Rex doesn't bring it to St. Louis I can't think of any other likely place in the US for the Candidates to be held, so right now I'm suspecting it will be elsewhere. If I had to pick a favorite I would say Russia, because right now there is actually some possibility of no Russian players qualifying at all, and if that happened I suspect a Russian sponsor would quickly come up with a strong bid for control of the wild card. Even if only one Russian player is in that remains a possibility.
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09-21-2015 , 02:44 PM
Does this mean that pretty much whoever hosts will put in a player from their own country (assuming they have a player > 2725, which one would assume if they are hosting)? I guess in that case So still has a shot simply b/c it seems like Rex could easily outbid or host it at any point if he wanted to.
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09-21-2015 , 05:25 PM
Pro blitz tip: Grab your king, lift it past your rook, and slide them both onto the correct positions. All in one motion, it's incredibly fast. You're welcome.
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09-21-2015 , 08:13 PM
http://chess-news.ru/en/node/20077

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"Hard to keep myself [silent], so I decided to say a few words," - Georgian GM Baadur Jobava decided to make a comment on his Facebook page regarding the incident in Nepomniachtchi - Nakamura tiebreak encounter and the decision the Appeal Committee has made.

"First, of course Ian should be in the next round, no question about that (the only mistake he made is that he didn't stop the clock and didn't protest at that moment). Second, Nakamura is a dirty player trying to use every chance to win the battle (he forgets that this isn't a real war and first of all chess was, and I hope still is, a gentlemen's game. Unfortunately many players forget this...). The Appeal committee is an absolutely impotent organ, I didn't expect from them anything but ironic ****ing bull**** words. I don't even understand, what are they paid such a big money for?!

Ian, hang in there, buddy. You got into an unfair cycle. I believe fortune will compensate this for you in full!"
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09-21-2015 , 08:44 PM
Wow. I was rooting for Ian, and it's obvious Nakamura knew he shouldn't castle with both hands, but I felt like Nepomniachtchi was just frustrated he lost the last couple games.

There's no way they should have changed the results after the games (and even if the arbiters did anything during the game, it would likely be just a warning).

I wonder if Ian would have had the same reaction if it was someone other than Hikaru.
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09-21-2015 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by goldaxe
Pro blitz tip: Grab your king, lift it past your rook, and slide them both onto the correct positions. All in one motion, it's incredibly fast. You're welcome.
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09-21-2015 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
The tablebase draw looks brutal, I'd rather try to hold R vs RB any day. Not sure about the play before that, did both players show unexpectedly poor technique for 2750, or is it just that rook endings are hard?
This will probably get covered extensively in the round 4 highlights show on chess.com/tv, starting on Tuesday at 13:00 PDT / 16:00 EDT / 21:00 BST (UK and Ireland time), because GM Alex Yermolinsky - one of the hosts - is a specialist in rook endgames and adores pointing out super-GMs' mistakes there
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09-21-2015 , 09:37 PM
An absolutely impotent organ is a strong phrase.

Naka seems like an incredibly unlikable person.
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09-21-2015 , 09:45 PM
LOL, some of the stuff Nepo said is hilarious.

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"Are you saying, - Ian objected, - that if my opponent at some point throws the queen in my face the arbiters should keep silent and instead of Qd4 write down "Queen-face-Nepo"?"
http://chess-news.ru/en/node/20074
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09-22-2015 , 09:53 AM
Wei Yi won on tiebreaks!
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09-22-2015 , 09:59 AM
I am still confused. Naka is a dirty player b/c of this incident or because people don't like him this is being used as confirmation bias?

Maybe I am really naive but I still think he could have done a two hands castle as part of the moment rather than some sort of sinister calculation to get a very small time edge. I have seen (in the past anyway) GMs doing such things playing casual blitz and if he is used to doing that why is it nefarious for it to crop up under pressure?

Anyway, whatever. Maybe after Naka is done with the tournament he will post some choice quotes. He much produces GOAT quotes when he opens his mouth.
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09-22-2015 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottTK
Wei Yi won on tiebreaks!
17.8% to qualify for the Candidates Tournament now!
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09-22-2015 , 11:25 AM
chess.com published a video interview with Naka where they asked him about it and he said basically that this is fine to do using US rules, he plays mostly blitz tourneys in the US, he forgot/wasn't aware the rule was differently here. Says it obviously wasn't done for gamesmanship or to generate any edge, just a habit from playing in the US.

I met Naka at the London Chess Classic a couple years ago. He certainly seemed friendly (though to be fair we had some friends of friends connections) and was happy to take a picture with me after his game.
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09-22-2015 , 01:04 PM
Oh man, I was hoping he would spit some hot fire. I guess he cannot provide GOAT quotes all the time.
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