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Old 01-25-2012, 10:56 AM   #1
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Problem of the Week #136: January 29

Problem of the Week #136: January 29


Money game, White owns the cube, Black on roll.




(a) Black to play 6-5, 6-3, 5-4, 5-3, 5-2, and 3-2.




(b) Slightly different position, Black to play all the same numbers as in (a).


Note: All ‘cash game’ problems assume the Jacoby Rule is in effect. That is, you can’t win a gammon unless the cube has been turned.
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:51 PM   #2
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Re: Problem of the Week #136: January 29

Not sure I understand this position at all but since everybody else is afraid of embarrassing themselves I'll just give it a go

I will be more inclined to make a point in position a) than b) because new points improve villains chance of his board cracking. So I will make the bar with 6-5, the 8 with 5-4 and the 10 with 3-2. If villain gets in now he will have to destroy his board 1/2 of the time, opposed to 1/3. With 5-2 and 6-3 I just run the checker on the 13 home, with 5-3 I run home with my checker on the 12.

In position b white can always move the checker on his 7 point, so making a blocking point seems a little less important. So I just make the running play every time, except for 3-2, which imo has only ugly alternatives to making the 10 point.
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:52 PM   #3
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Re: Problem of the Week #136: January 29

I have no idea how to proceed.

I guess if White rolls back in in a), then he may have to break up his home board or leave a blot open, so I guess in a) we should play for forcing white to do one of the two if we can do so, wheras in b) we should just try to roll in quickly and end the game or play it safe.

So for a)
6-5: 13/7, 12/7
6-3: 13/4
5-4: 13/8, 12/8
5-2: 13/6
3-2: 13/10, 12/10

For b we will have:
6-5: 9/4, 9/3
6-3: 9/6, 9/3
5-4: 13/4
5-2: 13/6
3-2: 13/10, 12/10

I'm probably dead wrong.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:24 PM   #4
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Re: Problem of the Week #136: January 29

hi everyone.i am a new user here on this forum.robertie i have a question and i dont know who to ask for an answer..i think here i can find an answer for my question.i read on older post that in backgammon is a term called error rate.i searched for further information on internet,i downloaded gnu programm and install it.i read on a site i cant remember which one that gnu backgammon has a chart in which you can see 0.001-0.002 supernatural,0.005-0.008 world class, expert etc.i think you know what i am talking about.i saw this on manual v.16 gnu.and my question is:gnu can tell by analysing your game your error rate and what he tells you is your skill level but if you set gnu programm to play at expert level what error he has?is the same as that one from that chart ???please answer me.
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:47 PM   #5
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Re: Problem of the Week #136: January 29

this is the site where i found the chart.http://www.gnu.org/software/gnubg/ma...ll-rating.html and the chart is Threshold for ratings:

Normalized total error rate per move Rating
0.000 - 0.002 Supernatural
0.002 - 0.005 World Class
0.005 - 0.008 Expert
0.008 - 0.012 Advanced
0.012 - 0.018 Intermediate
0.018 - 0.026 Casual Player
0.026 - 0.035 Beginner
> 0.035 Awful!

Please note: The Normalized total error rate per move is multiplied by 1000 in the default settings.


so,maybe i wasnt clear in my previous post.question: if i set gnu at expert level and play for ex a 9 match point against him and after this match i want to analyze his moves.so,his error rate at expert level is the same as the one from that chart?the chart refers only humans?his expert level error rate is different or the same as 0.005-0.008expert?
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:47 PM   #6
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Against a five-point board, White is about 30% to enter every time he rolls. Once he is moving, it will be hard for Black to clear the 9pt safely. As things stand, Black has 11 22 33 55 66 65 63 53, just 11 rolls, that do the job. But Black does not need the 9pt, because he is not trying to block White. He is just trying to get home safely. Should Black begin clearing the 9pt now?

In this problem, he has the opportunity. Three rolls (65 63 53) allow him to do so without leaving any fly shots. In addition, with 32, Black could lift the 9pt, and leave a blot on the 7pt, subject only to a 17-to-1 shot. With 52, Black could switch from the 9pt to the 7pt, giving a similar shot at the blot he leaves behind. Because of the other outside blots, even these risks might be too much. As soon as White hits any of Black’s blots, the threat of a gammon loss will loom large.

Alternatively, Black might try augmenting his blockade. With a made bar point, for instance, Black can add 62 52 32 to the list of rolls that clear his 9pt. When he owns the 8pt, Black has 61 51 31. But owning the 7pt or 8pt is problematic. Anytime Black makes another outside point, he may find it hard to clear that point later. When he goes to clear the 8pt, for example, Black will have 1 and 3 as “trouble” numbers. Clearing the 7pt is easier; the only trouble number is 2. Making the 10pt is wholely counterproductive. Owning it only increases the chance of blotting later.

In Part (a), there is a subtle advantage to making a blocking point. Each blocking point gives a boost to the chances that White might enter, and be forced to break his perfect board. 51 and 54 are already cracking numbers. With a made bar point, White cracks on 52, as well. When Black owns the 8pt, White cracks with 53.
  • 65 — 13/7, 12/7 ... Make a blocking point.
  • 63 — 9/6, 9/3 ...... Clear the 9pt safely.
  • 54 — 13/8, 12/8 ... Make a blocking point.
  • 53 — 9/6, 9/4 ...... Clear the 9pt safely.
  • 52 — 13/6 ........... Pay later.
  • 32 — 13/11, 12/9 . Leave just 1 blot, and 2 shots.
In Part (b), I’m going to clear the 9pt when I can do so safely. Otherwise, I’ll pay later, except with 32, where there is no safe play.
  • 65 — 9/4, 9/3 ...... Clear the 9pt safely.
  • 63 — 9/6, 9/3 ...... Clear the 9pt safely.
  • 54 — 13/4 ........... Pay later.
  • 53 — 9/6, 9/4 ...... Clear the 9pt safely.
  • 52 — 13/6 ........... Pay later.
  • 32 — 9/7, 9/6 ...... Cross my fingers, and bank on the return shots.
This is a fascinating problem. As is so often the case when I write a longer response, I am not at all confident about any of my answers. In Part (a) especially, I may have talked myself into folly by not simply clearing the 9pt whenever possible. I also wonder whether I should ignore the gammon risk, and switch points with 52 in one or both parts.

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Old 02-01-2012, 11:06 PM   #7
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Re: Problem of the Week #136: January 29

(a) 107-77 in favor of Black
6-5: 13/7 12/7 --> Safe and might force White to crunch if he rolls a 5
6-3: 13/4 --> Safe, one less checker to safety
5-4: 13/8 12/8 --> see 6-5
5-3: 12/4 --> see 6-3
5-2: 13/6 --> see 6-3 and 5-3
3-2: 13/10 12/10 --> The only safe play without shuffling our board


(b) 109-77 in favor of Black
I probably play the same way as in (a). A 5-pt board is still scary and safety is my main concern right now. (Quiz factor tells me that something is cooking though...)
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