asdf, I didn't use to believe in talking donkeys either. But after Black Friday happened, I was forced to visit my local casino.




Zork

Lol, Spelndour, the Qur'an has been around for close to 1.5k years. Do you think it was divinely inspired?

You scared away the fish. Keep him on the line. I was enjoying that.

All hail Zork!

This is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen here.

The level of posting here has really dive-bombed lately.

Pot. Meet Kettle.

Don't forget that He can't come in willingly, He has to be invited.

Edit: I wanted to be involved in this conversation in some constructive way, but since Splendour's default is to run and hide when confronted with unpleasant facts rather than do even a little bit of research to learn about other religions, it's kind of impossible. A shame.

Coming from a poster who rarely writes a post longer than two snide sentences long unless it is copy and pasted...what do we call those kinds of posters again?

Oh yeah. Trolls.

It rarely takes longer than two sentences to wreck kindergarten theology.

Quite a claim to make about someone on the Net and quite ignorant may I add as you have no idea what I've researched on religion.

I don't run and hide. I get bored with old discussions that I've done already over and over and I've addressed other religions in the past.

Have you read the thread where I showed that Buddhist Dalai Lamas owned slaves in the past?

I've posted on Eckhart Tolle and I've posted on Taoism in the past and I've made a few comments about Muhammad and Islam.

Did you my miss my latest FGM thread? I'm the only one in this forum that bothered to trace its roots and say it wasn't a Muslim custom.

If my focus is on getting things right now that's my prerogative.

I don't want to spend my life debunking other religions. I want to spend my life doing things God would want me to do.

Divine inspiration comes directly from God not angels. The Qur'an claims to have been given by an angel.

Paul says:

Galatians 1:6-9
New International Version (NIV)

No Other Gospel

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel — 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!


There are unique attributes listed in Deuteronomy desiginating who God's prophets are and they come out of the line of Jacob.

Some more points explained here:
http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is...e_prophet.html

We have already established that the Bible is nonsense. As are all Bibles. And the Christian Bible does not rate above or below the others, they are all basically the same nonsense. So when you continue to quote a discredited and shameful mess such as the Bible, you diminish your arguments rather than support them.

The big 3 monotheistic religions all come out of the OT.

Do you realize the Jews are still standing by the OT, the Christians say they got the most important update and Islam is claiming a revision of the Christian's update and of the Old Testament's prophetical line? Mormonism today claims to be an update to the Old and New Testaments. I don't even study Mormonism and I know Joseph Smith claimed to receive his information from the Angel Moroni.

Well how does God update things?

That's the question and God put the answer in Deuteronomy 18. It's only someone in the priest caste that would bother to check it out because they are interested in prophecy and the qualifications for being one.

You prefer your arguments to finding out how God laid things out.

But he didn't leave this to chance.

Moses said "The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him." (Deuteronomy 18)

It's true. Individuals who are "saved" by Jesus Christ are people who were basically destroyed by life's travails in one form or another. It is impossible to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and not be mentally ill.

If you discuss life with any "saved" person for long enough, you will find the inflection point at which they gave up rationality in favor of mysticism. It is always related to profound personal distress, often in the form of childhood trauma. Physical, sexual and verbal abuse is not infrequently in the mix. But even absent the usual suspects, "saved" people are invariably miserable, and were often substance abusers or compulsive in some other way prior to their being "saved". Many embraced immorality prior to collapse.

Even the word "saved" begs the question: saved from what?

Not that it is always a bad thing. It is superior to have an irrational "saved" person on the loose who is miserable but inactive with respect to sociopathic behaviors.

But 100% of people who are "saved" by Jesus Christ are suffering from profound mental illness. And it always was a result of tremendous adversity in some respect. Adversity that the individual was not strong enough to overcome. Adversity that caused the individual to collapse under the weight and give up on themselves. Adversity severe enough to abandon reality and seek out a "Savior."

Individuals who have "accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior" are among the saddest phenomena on the planet.

Really only saved people experience traumas and distress?

Then how do you explain the suicides in the families of Karl Marx and Joseph Stalin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadezhda_Alliluyeva

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Marx

Based on your post, you are the only mentally ill one here.

That's funny, because most fundy-atheists here point to their Christian childhood beliefs as being their point of personal distress. Hmm...

Stranger still, I bet you would find it hard to place a large group of people free from any childhood trauma, bullying, or abuse of some kind. You could easily apply these same standards to every and any faction.

Christians are by far the happiest, most-loving people I know or have known. You can just wildly and recklessly assert whatever you want and surround it with pseudo-intellectual musings and flowery hyperbole, like you have done here, but I am going to call you out on it.


I don't know. When someone has been deeply traumatized, for example, and they choose to give of themselves, celebrate life, and retain a positive attitude in the face of it, I would call that a tremendous personal victory, and not a defeat. They have in no way been overcome if they can sing and dance and smile on a Sunday morning.

I have seen the fruits of the alternative, secular program, and it is an obese woman sitting in her kitchen chain-smoking, stoned on Xanax and Zoloft, and collecting a check on the first of the month. No hope. No joy. Just numbed and defeated and feeling like a weighty, useless appendage.

All in all, you have no idea wtf you are talking about.