No, they show the weakness of your reasoning.

God is a sovereign being and he says "No" sometimes.

An example of God saying "No," to a favorite:

2 Samuel 7

God’s Promise to David
1 After the king was settled in his palace and the LORD had given him rest from all his enemies around him, 2 he said to Nathan the prophet, “Here I am, living in a house of cedar, while the ark of God remains in a tent.”
3 Nathan replied to the king, “Whatever you have in mind, go ahead and do it, for the LORD is with you.”

4 But that night the word of the LORD came to Nathan, saying:

5 “Go and tell my servant David, ‘This is what the LORD says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in? 6 I have not dwelt in a house from the day I brought the Israelites up out of Egypt to this day. I have been moving from place to place with a tent as my dwelling. 7 Wherever I have moved with all the Israelites, did I ever say to any of their rulers whom I commanded to shepherd my people Israel, “Why have you not built me a house of cedar?”’

8 “Now then, tell my servant David, ‘This is what the LORD Almighty says: I took you from the pasture, from tending the flock, and appointed you ruler over my people Israel. 9 I have been with you wherever you have gone, and I have cut off all your enemies from before you. Now I will make your name great, like the names of the greatest men on earth. 10 And I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that they can have a home of their own and no longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore, as they did at the beginning 11 and have done ever since the time I appointed leaders[a] over my people Israel. I will also give you rest from all your enemies.

“‘The LORD declares to you that the LORD himself will establish a house for you: 12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands. 15 But my love will never be taken away from him, as I took it away from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me[b]; your throne will be established forever.’”

17 Nathan reported to David all the words of this entire revelation.

Well, you're oh for two then.

God was quite "chatty" in that example.

I was under the impression that the amputee's requests had only been met with silence.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...655720,00.html

As for me, the silence and the emptiness is so great that I look and do not see, listen and do not hear.
— Mother Teresa

Splendour - So basically you're saying The Bible is the absolute, literal truth and you're basing your arguments in this thread on that premise? If so, I think we need a separate thread (although I'm sure it's been done before).

My nephew was born without an arm. If you can't get past this regeneration point, we can switch the debate over to "Why does God allow infants to be born with only one arm?"

I wouldn't bother, I'm sure there's a bible passage to deal with that one too.

More than one:

Exodus 20
You shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them. For I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those that hate me, and showing mercy to thousands of those that love Me and keep My commandments.

Numbers 14
The LORD is long-suffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation.

Deuteronomy 5
You shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them. For I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the sons to the third and fourth generation of those who hate Me, and doing mercy to thousands of those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Grandpa screwed it up for him.

Also happened to this guy ...

You can say "No" without verbalizing it and you can say "No" by how you set up the world's conditions.

Your question "Why won't God heal amputees?" is a carnal one.

Quote: "As we grow in spiritual-mindedness we will begin to see that even the bad and the evil things of life are ordained wisely for us by God: our bereavements are designed by God; our pains, and our ill health, and our difficulties are ordained by God; our losses and our crosses also are ordained by God. And as we grow in spiritual mindedness we are not only thankful to God for the good things of life but we become increasingly grateful and thankful to Him for the evil things of life. And we shall praise God and say with Job, "Shall we receive good of the Lord, and shall we not also receive evil?" (Job 2,10). "The Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord" (Job 1,21)."

Quote from Carnal-mindedness and its Opposite, Romans ch.8 v.6:
http://www.bible-sermons.org.uk/text...-its-opposite/

That's fantastic and all, but you haven't actually answered the question of why you wouldn't ask the question I mentioned instead of the thread title's question.

"Why won't God heal amputees" is a dumb question. Almost as dumb as "what's God's favourite colour." If you don't understand this now, you won't later.

My sympathies for your nephew. As for your question, you have to see that the answer to it is unknowable. You can ask similar questions on a wide array of unfortunate situations with the same result.

Just think about this on a basic level: You're asking a human a question that only God would know. It's fundamentally a flawed question. But it's not as bad as the OP's question. That one is just stupid.

We can posit our own divine explanations and rationalizations for why certain things (bad **** in life) happen the way they do, but never with 100% certainty. Unless, for whatever reason, God came down from Heaven and explained to somebody precisely why some particular unfortunate incident occurred the way it did, we're playing guessing games.

Umm, why would I ask the question you want me to ask? I'm very happy with the question put forth in this thread's title. It's very much on point and none of you god groupies out there can answer it. You may call it a dumb question, but surely you don't put it beyond god to regenerate a limb if he wants to. Is he really constrained by physical limitations? If so, then so much of the other stuff you all put out is b.s.

Let's cut to the chase: it's a myth. It's a fantasy. Amputees aside, there's no proof or evidence of an invisible guy who can do anything, much less regenerate a limb. Persist in your fairy tale. Continue to amuse me.

The sad part here is that I already answered the question.

If you're asking why he doesn't intervene miraculously and do it, I don't know. It's the same "I don't know" for a lot of other things that nobody knows.

So, you do not believe in the healing of illness or other ailment through prayer?

There is no working definition that I've ever found that limits the number of times a miracle can occur.

Also, you are tacitly admitting that all the people currently praying to be cured of lung cancer are wasting their time because of the one God already did that for. Then again, I'm sure I could find claims of miracles repeating, so that puts another crimp in your claim.

You don't like the question.

I don't like it, not because of personal taste or that it upsets me or whatever. I don't like because it's a nonsense question to ask. You don't have to be a believer to see that, but I can understand how being a nonbeliever would make that difficult to see.

When believers say God heals its a natural question to ask why not amputees.

Instant believer response: "God heals what he created to heal."

My response. Didn't Jesus grow back an ear and bring someone back form the dead. Did he create ears that grow back and people who come back form the dead?

Either way Yahweh has done far more fantastic things then healing an amputee.

And what happens when we learn to grow back limbs. Does that mean they were created to grow back? Or does that mean we heal what God created not to heal?


I mean lets be real. There were plenty of things we could not heal in the past, that were incurable, that we can heal today. Are those all in the things God does not heal? I highly doubt people who believe in healing hold themselves to those standards.

What should the Instant believer response be to this?

If you ask anything in my name, I will do it. [John 14:14]

Hey, that's a cool guy/video, I found that cute and uplifting and not in the usual omfglolpity kind of way.

My instant believer response, knowing all the verses like this, is what does abide in me mean? (since the other ones contain that phrase)

Perhaps you should make a thread that asks that.

I think theres a clue in this verse:

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Now anyone can scroll up to the beginning of this thread to see some of my thoughts on that.

You could also start a thread on what is the Kingdom? I'd love to hear some of these "Christians" thoughts on that.

The instant believer response would be...CONTEXT.


Jesus was speaking that directly to the disciples.

O copy and paste king.

I dunno know, if my god's miracles were limited to things that could also be a coincidence and not actually a miracle at all, I'd just cut out the middle man and conclude that god doesn't perform miracles, and by further deduction the Christian worldview is obviously false and made up. Especially when the bible has lots of stories of things that were definite miracles, even by the strictest standards.. but now in contemporary times we have absolutely 0 evidence of a true miracle ever happening. It just seems so odd for miracles to be a common place, then suddenly become something that has....never ever happened.

Occam razor that **** and move on to the next important thing to think about like learning how to program or reading some new philosophy or going for a run or learning to cook a new dish or working on a weakness or trying a new hobby or spending some quite alone time to think about how you can better your life ect..

Disclaimer:

The inverse square law is not gravity and I assure you that when Newton came up with gravity he had no way to explain it. The best Newton could do was describe it. There is a big difference between explaination and discription. Explaination is not something we need to consider something a law...we just need to be able to describe it.

We say it is a physical law that the speed of light in a vacum is 186000 miles per second but to my knowledge we have no explaination of why it is 186000 miles per second and not some other number like 187000.

If it turns out that neutrinos are indeed traveling faster then the speed of light the first paper on the subject will include a mathematical discription or formula which describes how fast neutrinos move. If the experiment which shows neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light stands up to scrutiny and is repeatable, it will be accepted as a law of physics or fact about the universe without any explaination. Now that explaination may come later and there will almost certainly be a quest to find it, but it certainly isn't necessary for it to be considered a physical law.

If amputees suddenly started growing their limbs back it would become a law of biology that sometimes humans grow their limbs back. If those amputated limbs just suddenly starting appearing restored, we would still be able to describe the phenomina. We would accept the phenomina as a fact of nature and begin to look for an explaination.