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04-20-2015 , 07:54 PM
I have often wondered why people are religious. Is it something more than a comforting thought one has. I always get so furious when I speak to religious people as most are so confident in their beliefs and seem to just take things for granted. They also come across as highly illogical and unintellectual, borderline delusional at times.

Even some religious people that are adults and seem intellectual often have child like characteristics, when speaking about their faith, I often lose all respect for those kind of people too!

When asked to provide proof, they always point to scriptures and the past! Often I hear that the universe came into existence and it has a cause therefor god exists? This is not proof.

I hear more psycho babble that everything has a cause so god exists. Even if everything has a cause why does then god suddenly exist?

When I ask if god created us in his image, I often get yes he did! We all universally agree on this one right! When I ask if they think god is an advanced chimpanzee, they look at me like I am the crazy one! We have to agree that was it not for a half of chromosome we'd pretty much be identical to our closest relatives. I think we are close to 100% the same.

God must at least be an animal right! If he made us in his image, we are mammals and mammals are animals right!
What baffles me when I state this is why people still want to believe that god is benevolent and looks out for them!!! Why would he create you with so many limitations, why from the same stuff of all other animals and the same stuff of what the universe is made of. You are gods chosen ones after all. Created in his image, yet he is not from this universe, yet you are created from stuff of this universe. How is this not proof enough for theists that you are after all not created in his image! Also created in his image must mean something else to a theist and me. If we are create something in my image that image would identical to me. In other words we must be GOD. Just without any powers!!!!!!!

Also I want to further discuss the possibility of 1 GOD. We see here on earth that it is impossible to run big operations by 1 person. Massive operations, take for example Amazon online retail giant. It takes more than just Jeff Bezos to run such an operation.

Take anything science, a lot of findings are a collaboration of people working in that specific environment!

Think of god like this brilliant mathematician/scientist/biologist/physicist, all rolled up into 1 person. I am not even sure this is possible but it might well be in the future. Even so lets say that the person is advanced with all these sciences, he'd still need help getting to that point right! In time it might be possible if he has enough time to evolve and hone the sciences, but even then if we look at the way things are on earth, he'd still need a lot of help. I find it mind boggling that any intellectual being can even begin to believe in 1 god. If anything from what we observe here on earth, the likelihood of god is that of multiple gods!

Also I'd want to point out that the above is not 100% correct, 1 person could be possible given enough time to evolve, only not on this planet. Would like to add that, that might be way god is such a failure in all of people's lives. He simply can not handle the enormous task he has presented to himself and take care of everyone!

Further I want to discuss how god came to the conclusion that he would be our god. How did he go about this process? He obviously appointed himself god of the people, but who gave him that right? Did he ask each and everyone of us that he is allowed to be our god? Or is he the type of individual who is above you and does not take your voice seriously?

One more point I'd like to make. If you would tell a gorilla that god made him I his image, is the gorilla correct to assume that god is a gorilla? Or does the statement only hold true for humans?
I think this is it for now, I have probably got more questions but this should do for now! Anybody feel free to answer and debate, religious or not!
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04-20-2015 , 08:19 PM
Let me preface the rest of the thread with:

This doesn't sound like its going to be a genuine attempt at understanding 'why'.
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04-20-2015 , 08:33 PM
Why?

I want to understand and I like it if my questions can be answered.
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04-20-2015 , 08:56 PM
Do you hold beliefs( of any kind)?
If yes, are all your beliefs, every single one, true?
If no, how come you hold untrue beliefs?
If yes, how can you be sure that all of your beliefs are true?
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04-20-2015 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
Do you hold beliefs( of any kind)?
If yes, are all your beliefs, every single one, true?
If no, how come you hold untrue beliefs?
If yes, how can you be sure that all of your beliefs are true?
Very interesting, but I am not sure what you are asking? Is this a riddle?

If you are asking me if I believe in something without evidence then NO I do not believe in anything without evidence!

Please go on and answer my questions too!
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04-20-2015 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
Very interesting, but I am not sure what you are asking? Is this a riddle?

If you are asking me if I believe in something without evidence then NO I do not believe in anything without evidence!

Please go on and answer my questions too!
It is very simple what I am asking. Do you want to answer them?

I dont think that the questions you ask will help answer why people are religious, so I wont answer them just yet.

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If you are asking me if I believe in something without evidence then NO I do not believe in anything without evidence!
I am not really asking you if you believe in something without evidence. You have beliefs, and you justify those beliefs to yourself, or others, with evidence. What I am asking is, is every single one of your beliefs true?
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04-20-2015 , 09:16 PM
I am not sure what you mean with beliefs?
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04-20-2015 , 09:28 PM
Tsar how similar do you think your life is compared to someone else?
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04-20-2015 , 09:34 PM
I do not know how I can compare my life to somebody else's.
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04-20-2015 , 09:35 PM
Can you answer my questions too! I give you the same courtesy!
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04-20-2015 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
I do not know how I can compare my life to somebody else's.
Think of my question as the key of why you will never know.
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04-20-2015 , 09:40 PM
^?
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04-20-2015 , 09:42 PM
If you know something then why are you not sharing it here, this is forum after all? Instead you talk in riddles? A little pointless really, why did you even ask a question, then get my answer and do nothing with it?
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04-20-2015 , 10:11 PM
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Tsar how similar do you think your life is compared to someone else?
Ok, I have thought about this some more. You need to define this somebody else, in order for me to compare my life to his/hers. I can then compare both lives lived and appoint them a number of 1-10 on how similar our lives are.
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04-21-2015 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
Do you hold beliefs( of any kind)?
If yes, are all your beliefs, every single one, true?
If no, how come you hold untrue beliefs?
If yes, how can you be sure that all of your beliefs are true?
He believed i was a believer, not sure what evidence he was going with, which is untrue.
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04-21-2015 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
I am not sure what you mean with beliefs?
you dont know what I mean with beliefs, but you are calling out religious people for being so confident on their beliefs?
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04-21-2015 , 06:54 AM
Yes, what you meant, could mean something else for me right?
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04-21-2015 , 06:56 AM
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He believed i was a believer, not sure what evidence he was going with, which is untrue.
I think you wanted me to believe you are a believer. I am not sure that I stated anywhere that you were a believer!
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04-21-2015 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
Do you hold beliefs( of any kind)?
If yes, are all your beliefs, every single one, true?
If no, how come you hold untrue beliefs?
If yes, how can you be sure that all of your beliefs are true?
So you mean religious beliefs then. In that case NO I do not have any religious beliefs!
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04-21-2015 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
I think you wanted me to believe you are a believer. I am not sure that I stated anywhere that you were a believer!
You told him to suck his god's dick.

In any case your posts in this forum are atrocious, not only is your attitude poor your reasoning sucks. Now I get that there are some people who's beliefs give you some sense of superiority but I have seen nothing to warrant it at all.

Usually a decent heuristic is when posting as an atheist a lot of atheists telling you you suck.
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04-21-2015 , 07:12 AM
Wow get of your high horse boy! No need to insult me. Just answer the questions, have you seen me come over to your thread and insult you. I stated the sucking of his god's dick but I did not state he was a believer. You can have a god and not believe right?
You guys need to stop making stuff up and learn to read critically, also try responding logically.

I am looking for answers, but you dereds you are so far off in your assumptions you probably have neel's **** up your ***.
If you want to make up stories that I get some sense of superiority from all this then that is your opinion. I don't at all. I am into debating this topic anyway I see fit. If you have nothing positive to add then stay out of my thread, OK!

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04-21-2015 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
So you mean religious beliefs then. In that case NO I do not have any religious beliefs!
No. I mean any sort of beliefs. Not just religious.
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04-21-2015 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
I think you wanted me to believe you are a believer. I am not sure that I stated anywhere that you were a believer!
Let me help you out here:

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Your whole post is about that I made generalizations and did not include most or some theists!! Geez are you done!!!! You believing loser!
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04-21-2015 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tsar of Russia
Wow get of your high horse boy! No need to insult me. Just answer the questions, have you seen me come over to your thread and insult you. I stated the sucking of his god's dick but I did not state he was a believer. You can have a god and not believe right?
You guys need to stop making stuff up and learn to read critically, also try responding logically.

I am looking for answers, but you dereds you are so far off in your assumptions you probably have neel's **** up your ***.
If you want to make up stories that I get some sense of superiority from all this then that is your opinion. I don't at all. I am into debating this topic anyway I see fit. If you have nothing positive to add then stay out of my thread, OK!
It's not your thread you are merely the OP. I'm not really interested in your homophobic insults as they are purile. However you are debating this topic in a manner that will probably have your posting rights removed, this is entirely your choice you can be a dick for a short time and go or you can stop being a dick and actually engage in discussion.

You aren't looking for answers you are looking for an argument, or to insult people, I'm perfectly alright being that person because while I doubt anyone would be offended by the kinds of immature slurs you are going to dish out I know that I won't be.

Carry on.
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04-21-2015 , 05:22 PM
How do you send comklaints to mods, so I can get you banned too for posting personal attacks.

You boys are a attacking me first and then go cry to the mods when you get attacked back. You truly have no shame, just like god!
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