Originally Posted by Wizard-50

This is simple.

You are of the belief that we deserve to live.

I believe we all deserve death for our sin.

My belief is biblical.

So under my belief, i'll make my own horizontal bar graph:

God saved
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Satan saved
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Originally Posted by ajmargarine

Concerto,

You've seen the folly of the religious hell. Allow the possibility that the religious heaven is similar folly.

Jesus began his ministry by saying: Repent, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (Mat 3:2) Repent means to change one's mind; ie. I believe certain things about heaven, I will change my mind regarding those things. At hand means 1) to bring near, to join one thing to another, 2) to draw or come near to, to approach 3) nearby.

One could accomplish the verse by putting your hand on your belly and saying, "I change my mind, the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Now look at your hand.

The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed sown IN man's field (Mat 13:31), it's like leaven hid IN meal (Mat 13:33), it's like a treasure hid IN man's field (Mat 13:44). It's all an inside job in you and it all happens while you are alive, not after death.

You search the scriptures, for in the scriptures you think you have eternal life; but you will not come to Christ that you may have Life. (Jn 5:39-40) The kingdom is within you (Lk 17:21), it's not up in the sky or somewhere to go after you die. It's here, it's now, it's Christ in you (Col 1:27). Not Jesus the dude from 2000 years ago; rather, Christ, the mind of Christ, the Spirit of Christ, in you, now.

And this isn't a metaphor or dogma to believe; it's abiding in a real experiential union, working out one's salvation from self; working out one's salvation from sin; and sin is simply missing the mark; and the mark, the bullseye, is Life in Christ, reunion with your Father, Living and Loving, being. All else is separation and death.

Peace.

Originally Posted by ajmargarine

You could expand, but that would just be adding error to error.

Gal 5:19-20 Now the works of the flesh are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies...

Emulation means imitation, to mimic. It is hypocrisy. Must a son mimic his father to be a son? No. And it's the same with you and your Father. Religion teaches us to keep faking it and then some day we will be it. They have it backwards.

The verse says, Be Perfect. Be. Be what you already are. Come into what you already are. Christ said, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast and thou shalt have treasure in heaven (Mat 19:21) The kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. (Mat 13:45-6)

Sell what you have is to become again like a little child. Sell all the intellectual perceptions about spirituality and life that you've acquired and become ignorant again, innocent; be as born again, a little child. Sell the self, crucify the self. All the junk we've put on top of what we are, need be sold (disregarded, loosed, let go of, disidentified with) so that what we are, sons and daughters of God, may be expressed; the Life of the Living Waters flowing through us and out of us.

Religion teaches us to imitate, hoping that by outer hypocrisy and mimicry the inner will be transformed. The Truth is, transform the inner and the outer follows. The first step for All who have been called, is to seek the kingdom within (Mt 6:33); many are called but few are chosen (Mt 22:14), ie. few find the kingdom within them. And if you listen to religion, you'll never even look.

Not everyone who professes Jesus enters the kingdom of heaven within them. (Mat 7:21) If you do not know it's within you or if you think it's somewhere you go after you die; you miss the mark. Strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it. (Mt 7:14)

The accustomed home for your awareness is the rich egoistic intellect. Focus on your breathing and make your home in the breath, for Blessed are the poor in breath, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Mt 5:3)

Peace.

Originally Posted by Concerto

One reason is that he created every human being who ever existed.

Originally Posted by Greatest I am

How many does God condemn to hell as compared to Satan?
That tells us more about your God than your graph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LNL6wKhXA

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord. -Romans 6:23

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

Read the bible if you want to learn of God firsthand.

Originally Posted by Concerto

One reason is that he created every human being who ever existed.

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Originally Posted by Wizard-50

None. Dont sin and youre home free. Satan on the other hand tempts all to sin. Read the bible if you want to learn of God firsthand. I reccomend ESV translation(its most transparent to thr original text), and start with Luke for the most detail of the gospel, Mark for a short, concise read.

Ive got a questin for you. Would you prefer a God that is not just? A God of no judgement? No accountability?

I havent watched any youtube links because i'm at my grandma's.

Originally Posted by Greatest I am

Why did he create Hitler, Stalin and pedophile priests?

Regards
DL

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

Greatest I Am, your logic is unbearable.

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

Greatest I Am, your logic is unbearable. Your questions strike me as insincere. Your nitpicking is annoying. Your motive seems to be simply trolling. You are exhausting to talk to, so i'll exclude myself from any conversations with you. This is not the first time ive felt this way about our conversations.

Originally Posted by CanadaLowball

this reads as: I cannot answer your questions, so I will call you insincere and declare you a troll and I will never talk to you again! HA! I WIN!

Originally Posted by Wizard-50

Greatest I Am, your logic is unbearable. Your questions strike me as insincere. Your nitpicking is annoying. Your motive seems to be simply trolling. You are exhausting to talk to, so i'll exclude myself from any conversations with you. This is not the first time ive felt this way about our conversations.