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Who should have died? God the Father or God the Son? Who should have died? God the Father or God the Son?

06-15-2010 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
If one repents for sin, even God the Father sinned and used genocide on us in Noah's day to hide it.
It is hard on humans when God screws up.

Regards
DL
Okay, it's clear you believe that God the Father can sin, which is kinda ridiculous, there's no use talking to you about matters such as 'who should've died, Father or Son.' I mistook you as a person with theological questions when you're just an angry atheist.

Though if you're not just an angry atheist, would you care to state what you believe in? Such as... the Trinity, Jesus being God and man (you obviously don't, so which is he),and Jesus's resurrection. And do you believe in the Bible as divinely inspired?
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06-15-2010 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerok
Okay, it's clear you believe that God the Father can sin, which is kinda ridiculous, there's no use talking to you about matters such as 'who should've died, Father or Son.' I mistook you as a person with theological questions when you're just an angry atheist.

Though if you're not just an angry atheist, would you care to state what you believe in? Such as... the Trinity, Jesus being God and man (you obviously don't, so which is he),and Jesus's resurrection. And do you believe in the Bible as divinely inspired?
The K J Bible helped me quite a bit. It is good for thought but should not be read literally or taken too seriously.

If it were the true word of God, do you think that God would begin His book with talking animals, staffs that turn into snakes, water walking and end it with a seven headed monster?
If you believe that it is truly the words of God then you idol worship your book when even it tells you that God's words are written on the hearts of men.

I call myself a Deist as my closest label and in that sense am a religionist like yourself but thanks to my apotheosis or rapprochement to the Godhead confirmed that my reading of scripture is right as compared to literalists.
My Godhead is not the God you believe in though.

If you can lose your belief in fantasy then we can proceed and progress. If not, you will eventually tell me to turn or burn because you cannot convert me.

The Bible must be judged on it's morals and these are not based on fantasy but on reality. The key to understanding your Word is Genesis and if you cannot leave the garden of Eden seeing both God and man as winners, no fall, then you cannot understand the rest.

If you are a literalist, and you are then if you can believe these, and apply them to A & E and see that Eve did the right thing, then we have a chance.

Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Regards
DL
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06-15-2010 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
If you can lose your belief in fantasy then we can proceed and progress. If not, you will eventually tell me to turn or burn because you cannot convert me.
I will neither tell you to turn or burn, as I myself may burn and I can't pass judgment on others like that. Each seeks truth where he will find it and it seems you have set your mind as to what the truth is. Neither can you convert me to your belief system, as it is, with no substantial evidence (in my view) but rather reinterpretations of scripture.

So I guess there's no point in discussing much else with you and good luck on your journey and I hope to see you in heaven
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06-15-2010 , 03:50 PM
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If it were the true word of God, do you think that God would begin His book with talking animals, staffs that turn into snakes, water walking and end it with a seven headed monster?
If you believe that it is truly the words of God then you idol worship your book when even it tells you that God's words are written on the hearts of men.
If you can provide anything in Scripture to back up this view, it may be looked at seriously. An opinion on it's own, is just an opinion.
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06-15-2010 , 04:51 PM
Though good advice lies deep within a person's heart, the wise will draw it out.
Proverbs 20:5

Get all the advice and instruction you can and be wise the rest of your life.
Proverbs 19:20

If you stop listening to instruction, my child, you have turned your back on knowledge.
Proverbs 19:27
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06-15-2010 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerok
I will neither tell you to turn or burn, as I myself may burn and I can't pass judgment on others like that. Each seeks truth where he will find it and it seems you have set your mind as to what the truth is. Neither can you convert me to your belief system, as it is, with no substantial evidence (in my view) but rather reinterpretations of scripture.

So I guess there's no point in discussing much else with you and good luck on your journey and I hope to see you in heaven
2 Peter 3:9 KJ
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

This says that we will and we really have no choice if your God's will is supreme.

Regards
DL
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06-15-2010 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
If you can provide anything in Scripture to back up this view, it may be looked at seriously. An opinion on it's own, is just an opinion.
Idol worshipers are so funny. LOL.

I offered a point or question of logic but if it isn't in the idol it can't be true.

Never mind that the idol uses genocide on mankind.
Enjoy your genocidal God.

Regards
DL
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06-15-2010 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Though good advice lies deep within a person's heart, the wise will draw it out.
Proverbs 20:5

Get all the advice and instruction you can and be wise the rest of your life.
Proverbs 19:20

If you stop listening to instruction, my child, you have turned your back on knowledge.
Proverbs 19:27
Next time you show your belief in talking animals and water walkers, do try to remember this.

1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Regards
DL
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06-15-2010 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
Idol worshipers are so funny. LOL.

I offered a point or question of logic but if it isn't in the idol it can't be true.

Never mind that the idol uses genocide on mankind.
Enjoy your genocidal God.

Regards
DL
Do you know what idol worshiping is? (Hint. It is not taking His Word to heart...)
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06-16-2010 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Do you know what idol worshiping is? (Hint. It is not taking His Word to heart...)
It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are Religionists.
They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a God but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHa...x=0&playnext=1

Regards
DL
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06-16-2010 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatest I am
I tend to be wrongfully accused of trolling when the poster is too lazy to think.
It is a good way for them to hide the fact that their thinking is just not right.
It is mostly those who believe in talking animals and water walkers.

Regards
DL
1) I clearly and concisely responded to your most recent post before calling you out on trolling.

2) I'm an atheist, nice try.

3) It amuses me that you accuse someone else of being lazy but never bother to show/explain why my post was in any way incorrect.

Go away.
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