this sentiment really echoes V. Stenger's nearsightedness in "God: the Failed Hypothesis"

How 'bout we base our judgement on jails, prisons and crime stats in known History

The 20th Century!...Secular governments killed more innocents than all religious wars combined!

First i said i was guessing. Second i dont see why any of any of that matters. The question is who is more moral? If we accept all you said then those are just reason why they are more moral.

What other myth do you know of that continues to be used by religions to maintain the inequality of women?

Should such garbage and as you say, a sexist view not be denounced till it finally dies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqN8E...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dspW...eature=related

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A thoughtful reply. Thanks.

Men---"more willing to waste time on abstract intangible thoughts, including those regarding morality,"

I agree but think it may be because we like to fight and argue more than women. Not quite a moral reason.

If the male run religions, most religions if not all, are an indicator, and most will not give woman equality, then I suggest that the male contemplation of morality is more of an exercise in how to twist morality to suite then at the cost of women.

Men use it in a self-serving way IOW.

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I agree but did hear this rebutal.

Answer.
Only one conclusion is possible - women are more intelligent criminals.



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So you are saying they are smarter. No way.

The U S is secular and it`s war in Iraq will be called a secular war in the future yet Bush went into it because of God.

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Only in this post will I agree.

Hell. Religious men are the smartest. Those bastards found a way to subjugate half the population, women, and have women basically not complain about it in any meaningful way till lately.

This is recognized by all men of religion. Why in hell do you think they throw money in that basket every Sunday?
Hell, even I would pay to have my wife under my thumb, if I had no morals the way religious men do not have.

It is sort of like getting a prostitute for just a few buck.

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I can't tell if this is more sexist against men or women. Just as a point of order, you should really stop saying things like "all men of religion" because such statements are almost tautologically false.

So take out those who do not understand their theology.

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"The Bible is a different kind of book, but I wonder how many realize just how different. Oh, I know that it is transcendently and normatively inspired. That goes without saying; that is, it goes without saying as far as my usual readership is concerned, but the particular unique characteristic that I feel compelled to probe has to do with what was God's ultimate intention in inspiring and compiling the Book of books. God is a God of instrumentality. He has and uses many instruments, and the Bible is one of those. It is a divine instrument."

Imagine an archaeologist uncovering an object that is obviously a device of some sort, an instrument of some sort, which was used by the culture he is investigating. Not knowing all that much about that particular ancient culture, it might not be all that easy to determine the purpose of the instrument. One could easily erroneously imagine a purpose for the instrument that, in fact, never was the intention of its inventors.

Though the use of an instrument is usually quite specific, sometimes with limited success, it can be used for purposes other than the original intention. A shoe, for instance, practically speaking, is meant to provide protection for one's foot, but lacking a hammer, it can be used as a pounding device. Remember Nikita Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the table at the United Nations? - end quote

The Bible
by John R Gavazzoni
http://www.tentmaker.org/Biblematter...gavazzoni.html


I know many atheists like their skepticism and asserting an evil nature for God authoritatively.

But the supreme authority on the nature of God is Jesus Christ alone. He's the main one in history to really know the nature of God since he came down from him and Jesus Christ says definitively that "the only one good is God."

So what exactly do you get from an obstinate refusal to believe Jesus on God's nature? Confusion?

Does confusion produce the kind of good results that confidence in order does?

similar thing to consider-- Though I don't have statistics, I would bet that men get more moving violation tickets then men. That being said, I recall quizzing a number of women way back in my college days and being surprised to find that many of them quite regularly got out of tickets. Many outright admitted if they batted their eyes and looked sad the cops would let them off with a warning. Meanwhile, most guys I knew had never personally been let off on warnings.

Perhaps women are being let go (or let off easier) because of how men are driven by their you-know-whats.

This is like asking, are men or women better dancers. Or cooks. In other words.compleletly pointless.

Stupid question.

Which also shows how easily we can be bribed thus showing our lower moral standards.

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If men of today were moral, they would be pushing for equality of the sexes and the fact that they have the power and do so and do not shows beyond a doubt that the present morality of men suck and by men holding this ground, whatever improvements women can do will never be known. Men in wasting this resource show just how foolish and immoral we are.

Keep thinking it is stupid and pointless. Women and men of intelligence will see where you are coming from.

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