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06-04-2012, 12:02 AM
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adept
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
Agreed. Although, I must say when someone calls themselves a former "devout atheist" I tend to let out a loud guffaw.
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But you make it known in here that you are a former Christian,
Baptist if I remember right, and I'm guessing you expect people
in here to believe those claims.
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06-04-2012, 12:08 AM
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#77
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True Facts
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dexter's table
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by festeringZit
But you make it known in here that you are a former Christian,
Baptist if I remember right, and I'm guessing you expect people
in here to believe those claims.
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I do believe their claims, if skeptically. I never stated otherwise. I simply pointed out that it was humorous that you were trying to contradict Husker by providing evidence that he (apparently) didn't consider valid and had already dismissed.*
*Assuming the 'he' was in fact McGrath.
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06-04-2012, 12:08 AM
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#78
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
I've noticed you developed quite the preoccupation with the masturbatory habits of atheists. You might want to look into that.
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Looks like I need to educate you yet again. But, actually we both
know which definition I was speaking of, now don't we?
Circlejerk:
A group discussion or activity between like-minded individuals that validates mutual biases or goals in a non-confrontational environment.
Circlejerk:
Sometimes used to describe an internet forum thread where forum members all give each other kudos (Or rep where a rep system is present) for some non-event that has occurred.
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06-04-2012, 12:10 AM
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#79
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adept
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
I do believe their claims, if skeptically. I never stated otherwise. I simply pointed out that it was humorous that you were trying to contradict Husker by providing evidence that he (apparently) didn't consider valid and had already dismissed.*
*Assuming the 'he' was in fact McGrath.
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Humorous only if you have no clue what a faulty antecedent is.
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06-04-2012, 12:10 AM
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#80
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,049
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Re: What should I read next?
Read jiddhu krishnamurti, his vids are on you tube and his writings aren't hard to find. Bruce lee modeled his martial art after JK's teachings. He will suggest you completely unlearn everything and then look at the world.
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06-04-2012, 12:11 AM
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#81
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True Facts
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dexter's table
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by festeringZit
Looks like I need to educate you yet again. But, actually we both
know which definition I was speaking of, now don't we?
Circlejerk:
A group discussion or activity between like-minded individuals that validates mutual biases or goals in a non-confrontational environment.
Circlejerk:
Sometimes used to describe an internet forum thread where forum members all give each other kudos (Or rep where a rep system is present) for some non-event that has occurred.
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Wow.
Pun: A joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings.
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06-04-2012, 12:13 AM
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#82
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True Facts
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by festeringZit
Humorous only if you have no clue what a faulty antecedent is.
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I would be willing to give you 100-to-1 that Husker was referring to McGrath.
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06-04-2012, 12:22 AM
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#83
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by festeringZit
Bingo. This is the fair response.
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I'm glad you agree, its a matter of consistency. So, would you agree then, that the belief that Hitler most likely believed that Christ rose from the dead makes him a Christian?
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06-04-2012, 02:38 AM
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#84
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Touched by His Noodly Appendage
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by Splendour
Anyways, a friend of her's gets a demon
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The nonchalance of this comment is just amazing :O
As far as the "I used to be an atheist" tag-line, you must surely recognise that this gets used by apologists in the sense of "I can help to change your extreme views!" (e.g. Kirk Cameron's lol "devoutness" to atheism, as already mentioned).
It seems to me that apologists who use this tag-line are referring to some inconsequential period in their life of either apatheism, or more likely cultural-Christianity (brought up Christian, but didn't think much about the details, seeing as they were probably around 12-years old at that point).
What would be a fascinating read would be someone that was already known to be an atheist before their conversion (someone level-headed, which probably disqualifies the litigious-happy Patrick Greene, who finally converted to Christianity after a church donated some money for a medical procedure...he may have already converted back by the time you read this).
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06-04-2012, 03:42 AM
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#85
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Jersey
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by Sommerset
I'm glad you agree, its a matter of consistency. So, would you agree then, that the belief that Hitler most likely believed that Christ rose from the dead makes him a Christian?
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Can you explain to me how someone could murder millions and yet still justifiably be in line with a belief of non-violent opposition, love your neighbor as yourself, pray for those who persecute you, and die to self?
Also, I love how fundy-atheists try to front-load arguments and think no one is going to notice.
Quite frankly, anyone who thinks Hitler adhered to Christian doctrine is an idiot.
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06-04-2012, 03:50 AM
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#86
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True Facts
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Re: What should I read next?
.....and Doggg just proved Sommerset's point.
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06-04-2012, 04:01 AM
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#87
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Jersey
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Re: What should I read next?
Before you get all sommerset-ish on me and blah blah about doggg the hypocrite. I don't say any of that as a christian. As a person of common sensibility and common sense I say these things.
In 20 years of active opposition to christianity and religion, I never once linked Christianity and Hitler. Not once.
Because it is downright stupid. Such sensationalistic, outlandish, and provocative associations just marks one for incredulity.
Like people who literally (like a crazed stalker) add a post to my every post within 30 seconds of my posting, even though I have notified them that I have added them to my ignore list. Logic and reason will not effect such a puerile character. That's why they are on the list to begin with.
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06-04-2012, 04:15 AM
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#88
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Jersey
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by zumby
I missed this little treat the first time round.
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You also missed the context the first time around. Try a second, perhaps.
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06-04-2012, 08:46 AM
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#89
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Holsten's Diner
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32
I would be willing to give you 100-to-1 that Husker was referring to McGrath.
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Correct.
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06-04-2012, 11:03 AM
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#90
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 768
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Re: What should I read next?
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Originally Posted by Sommerset
I'm glad you agree, its a matter of consistency. So, would you agree then, that the belief that Hitler most likely believed that Christ rose from the dead makes him a Christian?
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Puhhlease, is this the best you can come up with?
As if by posting something as asinine as this, you are actually
interested in intelligent discourse?
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