We need a sacrifice because the ground was cursed by Adam and Eve's actions.

If you are serious ... that is pure bronze-age superstition.

If you are not serious ... OK.

The bible states that God finds burnt offerings of animals pleasing.

–Leviticus 1:5-9
He is to slaughter the young bull before the Lord, and then Aaron’s sons the priests shall bring the blood and sprinkle it against the altar on all sides at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting. He is to skin the burnt offering and cut it into pieces. The sons of Aaron the priest are to put fire on the altar and arrange wood on the fire. Then Aaron’s sons the priests shall arrange the pieces, including the head and the fat on the burning wood that is on the altar. He is to wash the inner parts and the legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an offering made by fire, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

That doesnt make any sense to me.

But thanks for taking the time to answer.

I think it'll be clearer when you realize that once a ground is cursed it can only be undone with a blood sacrifice. Everybody knows that... or at least everybody did a few thousand years ago. Funny how such basic things as 'how to remove cursed ground via blood sacrifices' has been lost in this so-called modern age. Sure, we can build ipods and cure many diseases but we don't have the faintest idea how to get a curse out of a garden.

Yeah, you know, the ones that make Jibninjas mad

Can other things be cursed? Gyspy curse? etc...
How do you undo other curses?

ORLLY?

No it's not. It's not some highly evolved concept. It's just your regular ancient Jewish 'scape-goat.'

Taking the blame for someone else's wrongdoing and putting it on someone and punishing them in their place. Scapegoat.

Ted Bundy confessed to killing 35 women. If someone were to stand up and say 'hey wait, I'll take his place in the electric chair!'

That's not utility or mercy and that's not justice. That is stupidity.

It is a convoluted story.

God created Adam.

God told Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Then God created an unnamed woman from Adam's rib. Adam and the unnamed woman were naked.

The Serpent suggested to the unnamed woman that eating from the tree of the fruit of knowledge would be a good thing.

The unnamed woman ate the fruit, and then gave some to Adam.

They discovered that they were naked, and then covered themselves. They literally sewed fig leaves together to do this.

Switching to quotation mode:

Genesis 3:11
And God said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

And then, hundreds of years later ...

Romans 5
18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

They think this is quite logical.

You know you're not going to encourage open discussion and dialogue if you just ban-threaten everyone who comes within earshot of quasi-insulting someone.

A mod isn't here to protect feelings, a mod is here to protect the T&C of 2+2 and I'm pretty sure you're allowed to post images as long as they're not completely porn or obscene or whatever.

Personally I think someone would have to be the most sensitive individual in the world to be insulted by that picture, and even if they were insulted, so what? Go to a Christian or Atheist forum to have your fur rubbed the right way, there are both types here. Since when did 2+2 ever even claim to guarantee people weren't going to be offended?

How other people take those pictures is up to them, not you.

If you aren't aware of that you shouldn't be a mod.

Congratulations! You are now being closely watched by Ryan Beal for "disrespecting" a 2+2 moderator. Good luck to your account

Integrity suffers no sacrifice but inaction.

Here in RGT we have some additional rules that go beyond the T&C, placed in a convenient sticky located at the top of the main RGT page. They lay out some of the basic principles that are meant to promote better discussions in this forum. As moderators, we use those rules as a guide to when a post should be deleted or edited. Some of those rules require us to use our own judgement, such as judging whether a post is consistent with the "tone" of a thread, or whether a post is meant to be maliciously insulting or merely a playful jab among friends.

The problem with moderating posts with images in them is that the meaning of an image tends to be more viewer-dependent than the meaning of text. For example, an image that wasn't meant to be insulting can pretty easily and justifiably be taken as such by a member of the group it mocks. This means that the moderator is forced to rely more on his own subjective understanding of an image in deciding how to mod it, which makes it more difficult to present solid reasons as to why it should be deleted if he thinks it should be.

All that being said, I don't think there is anything insuperable about moderating images, and I think our default should definitely be towards allowing things rather than banning them, so I think we should maintain present policy towards posting images. I also think that the image that VP$IP posted in this thread is well within the bounds of mockery that has been allowed in this forum and so shouldn't be deleted.

Finally, this discussion is a derail, so if you have anything further to add, I'll double post this to the "Random Chat" thread and you can discuss it there.

If anyone has an issue with my modding they can PM me, any further posts on the subject matter will be deleted and open to infraction points.

Google and read The Laws of Blood and Redemption by Dr. Stephen E. Jones

Is that the same Dr. Stephen E. Jones who believes that the WTC was destroyed by a controlled demolition?

I don't know but you need to approach someone else with your weak analogies.

“In politics there are no accidents,” Franklin Delano Roosevelt once said. “If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.”

It's not an analogy. It's a question.

Edit: from what I can find, it doesn't appear to be the same guy. But I don't know for certain.

Sins are a sort of neutrino like particle. Any day now they'll discover it at CERN. Any time you do something bad, your soul attracts a sin particle. Jesus dying was like a super nuclear reaction that destroys sin, across all time and space.

Who said religion and science were incompatible?!