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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Eternal Hell is not "just". It's sick and twisted. Especially when your so-called god made people that way.
The bottom line is that you religious nuts created the concept of hell bc you want control over other people. The church has always wanted two things: a) our money, and 2) control over us.
Now take your nonsense somewhere where people don't have minds of their own.
I assume you believe that I'm a Christian, in which case you would be correct. If you understood Christianity you would understand that God did not make us this way, it's a result of our sinful choices.
I can grasp that an eternity in Hell would be terrible, but I can also grasp that God is infinitely more intelligent, just, and loving than I am. I also acknowledge that he has offered a lifeline to anyone willing to take it, and considering what it cost him and that over the course of the thousands of years that he has laboured for us he could have just quit and destroyed us all, and done so without compromising his own sense of justice, that he is incredibly loving.
Just as a thought experiment though, let's pretend God's justice didn't require eternal death and eternal separation. Let's pretend you have a situation where anyone can do whatever they want. What's to stop you from doing something evil or something that's against this loving God that created you? Nothing, right? Do you think such a situation is tenable? Why would a loving God allow such things to happen, or even create a situation where that was the outcome? It doesn't make sense, does it? So clearly some justice is required. So let's take it a step further. Let's pretend you have a reality where God is the creator, but when you choose to sin you're simply thrown into a sort of temporal jail to serve your sentence, this seems to solve the problem, doesn't it? Well, from our perspective, it might, we get to exist and whenever we mess up and sin we're thrown into this temporal jail to serve our sentence and that solves the problem of justice. But what about God's perspective in such a situation? He's destined to become a jailer for all of eternity, constantly locking up and meting out punishment whenever his creation fails and chooses to sin. This also seems undesirable, why would God create such a reality? So let's explore a third option, one where we're given a clear choice, God or without God. In such a reality God makes it abundantly clear what the consequences of sin are and lets us make the decision entirely on our own. This seems to be the most preferable of all three situations, and one where God's love morality and justice are not compromised. Such a situation lines up with what the Bible teaches, which overarchingly points towards Jesus and the salvation offered in him, salvation that is being offered to people already past the line of guilt. It's an awesome expression of God's love.
Also, I'm not interested in your money or in having control over you.