The Tetrad - Page 9 - Religion, God, and Theology

Siegmund · 02-10-2009, 09:21 PM

Just wanted to call your attention to the fact I posted a response to your query in the probability forum. I have confined myself to astronomical facts, and not addressed their religious implications or lack thereof. It doesn't seem appropriate to crosspost that answer here, given the path this thread took.

Mempho · 02-10-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Siegmund

Just wanted to call your attention to the fact I posted a response to your query in the probability forum. I have confined myself to astronomical facts, and not addressed their religious implications or lack thereof. It doesn't seem appropriate to crosspost that answer here, given the path this thread took.

I read your response and appreciate your taking the time to answer the question so thoroughly.

Splendour · 02-10-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Siegmund

Just wanted to call your attention to the fact I posted a response to your query in the probability forum. I have confined myself to astronomical facts, and not addressed their religious implications or lack thereof. It doesn't seem appropriate to crosspost that answer here, given the path this thread took.

Thanks for your post Siegmund. It was very informative.

devilset666 · 02-10-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigErf

Ohhhhh...nail bitin' time.

Do you think you'll be alive in the end of days? For some reason I feel that I will.

It's called narcissism.

loK2thabrain · 02-10-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mempho

That's a point well taken about private citizens in the West being able to do it themselves if it was a priority...one that I hadn't even really been thinking about.

How could you not have thought of something this obvious?

No offense, but the fact that you haven't thought of this shows that you don't really analyze the stuff you're backing. It's like if I told you that I have a slave. I tell you my slave really likes his current situation because I give him one Butterfinger every night. Now you could think, "Yes, a Butterfinger every night would be pretty nice. Makes sense the slave is happy." or you could say, "Well, Butterfingers a damn good candy bar, but what about the other 23 hours and 55 minutes a day that the slave isn't eating a Butterfinger? What's going on then? BEATINGS?!?....hmmm, that dude might just be trying to rationalize having a slave because it makes his life tremendously easier. He might think I'll view him in a negative light if I know how much the slave is truly suffering. This guy's full of ****."

If your God is real, he created a world full of suffering, yet you blindly defend that he's all-loving and has perfect morals, and IS perfect.

Every Christian believes that we are ALL born sinners. EVERYONE sins is the claim that's repeated over and over.

So God would either have to let everyone have a chance at forgiveness, or damn everyone to hell from the start by allowing us to sin but not allowing us a chance at forgiveness and entrance into heaven, or - by definition - not be an all-loving God.

Since the people that faked Christianity knew every human sinned, or at least knew it couldn't be proved that no one ever sins (even some thoughts are sins) the idea that our sins are forgiven and eternal life is the reward....well, that's a pretty solid base to fake a religion upon to say the least.