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Old 06-02-2010, 02:42 PM   #91
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Kurto i would be happy to discuss these things with you but you aren't even trying to discuss.
no. Anytime anyone disagrees with you, or to be more real, shows that you are wrong, you call them haters. I could care less about discussing with you. Its more like a forum game of who can best pwn Gunth.

I'm not trying to discuss because I have already proven you wrong.

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I make some good points and you just carry on with your hate. Honestly bro, relax a little.
I'm not sure what you think your good points were. Myself and plenty of others have already demonstrated why your points aren't 'all that.' The fact that you ignore all the contradictory information is just expected from you at this point.

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You attack me with your points like i am supposed to know your points already. Let me know when you want to cut the crap.
Many of the points I post you are supposed to know. That is, most everyone knows a lot of the stuff you are ignorant of. Just as important, if they are ignorant of something, they know how to research something before making assertive statements like you do. You start threads clearly with no idea what you're talking about. And when people point out why you're wrong you continue to deny it despite endless evidence to the contrary.

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(1) the Bible being correct about food prohibitions isn't indicative of anything requiring a god. Its what would be expected from any culture who wrote food. It doesn't require supernatural forces to figure out what foods are safer to eat then others.
(2) Much of the food the Bible listed is PERFECTLY HEALTHY. The fact that they can absorb toxins isn't a problem if they don't absorb high levels of toxins. Since the industrial revolution, toxins in waters have increased, which is a problem with MAN and not the fish. This is balanced by farm raised seafood. So all the sea food you say is bad to eat is NOT bad to eat if its raised in a healthy environment. Millions of tons of Fin Less and Scale Less food are farm raised every year and are very good for you. Contrary to what you want to believe.

This has all been outlined for you and you just ignore it all. Please don't pretend others don't want to discuss. I know you'll continue to pretend the problem is with everyone else despite the growing number of people who tell you otherwise.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:52 PM   #92
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Re: Science proves Bible right regarding foods.

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farming of fish without fins or scales was not prevalent, therefore the verse was accurate for that time in history up until the very recent development of fish farms".
How is this not obvious?
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:55 PM   #93
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It was obvious that brokekid was making a point about farmed fish in general, not specifically atlantic salmon.
Well God did not say to not eat any fish in general. He said avoid ones that don't have fins and scales. So when brokefish points out "And nothing is unclean about them.. in fact, I eat farm raised atlantic salmon every now and then and its the most healthiest food you can eat imo.", then he is either purposely displaying his ignorance, or has not read the beginning of the thread.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:57 PM   #94
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Why not say something like "When the bible was written, farming of fish without fins or scales was not prevalent, therefore the verse was accurate for that time in history up until the very recent development of fish farms".
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How is this not obvious?
Gunth, do you believe that these teachings were descendent from the wisdom of a higher spiritual being?
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:02 PM   #95
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Re: Science proves Bible right regarding foods.

Also, the sanitary conditions to shrimp farms are generally not that great. So basically the same rules apply to those, since they do not have scales to absorb the toxins. Not sure about other farms, but i don't see how that would be any different. I wish you guys would actually put some effort into researching your point before you make it.
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Also, the sanitary conditions to shrimp farms are generally not that great. So basically the same rules apply to those, since they do not have scales to absorb the toxins. Not sure about other farms, but i don't see how that would be any different.
Do you have evidence showing that farmed shellfish contain unhealthy levels of toxins?

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I wish you guys would actually put some effort into researching your point before you make it.
Please point out why this doesn't apply to you.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:05 PM   #97
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(1) the Bible being correct about food prohibitions isn't indicative of anything requiring a god. Its what would be expected from any culture who wrote food. It doesn't require supernatural forces to figure out what foods are safer to eat then others.
What is the thread title kurto?
This was not about proving God correct, even though it pretty much does. It was proving the Bible correct. Now if these people who wrote it at the time knew of God. Which is why they didn't mention otherwise. If they were smart enough to figure these things all by themselves, why would they credit God?

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Much of the food the Bible listed is PERFECTLY HEALTHY. The fact that they can absorb toxins isn't a problem if they don't absorb high levels of toxins. Since the industrial revolution, toxins in waters have increased, which is a problem with MAN and not the fish. This is balanced by farm raised seafood. So all the sea food you say is bad to eat is NOT bad to eat if its raised in a healthy environment. Millions of tons of Fin Less and Scale Less food are farm raised every year and are very good for you. Contrary to what you want to believe.
And this is the case with pretty much anything that is bad for you. I can go take a sip of draino and be fine. I can huff a couple helium balloons and be fine. That does not mean it isn't bad for you, and doesn't have some type of affect inside your body.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:17 PM   #98
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LOL....Classic biblical illiteracy.

Figs are symbolic in the bible.

Whoever made up that pic must have got an "F" in poetry and literature class.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:20 PM   #99
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How is this not obvious?
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Well God did not say to not eat any fish in general. He said avoid ones that don't have fins and scales. So when brokefish points out "And nothing is unclean about them.. in fact, I eat farm raised atlantic salmon every now and then and its the most healthiest food you can eat imo.", then he is either purposely displaying his ignorance, or has not read the beginning of the thread.
It is obvious, but do you not think it has more value than pointing out that salmon have fins and scales? Yes brokekid's example was incorrect. The point about farmed fish stands despite his example though, and you ignored it which is why I said your post was obtuse. My post was about you purposefully missing the point of brokekid's post, at least when I brought up my obvious point it was in an effort to move the discussion forward.
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LOL....Classic biblical illiteracy.

Figs are symbolic in the bible.

Whoever made up that pic must have got an "F" in poetry and literature class.
LOL classic humor illiteracy.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:28 PM   #101
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It is obvious, but do you not think it has more value than pointing out that salmon have fins and scales? Yes brokekid's example was incorrect. The point about farmed fish stands despite his example though, and you ignored it which is why I said your post was obtuse. My post was about you purposefully missing the point of brokekid's post, at least when I brought up my obvious point it was in an effort to move the discussion forward.
I did not ignore it, i just didn't know enough about the subject to respond yet. I actually did respond a few posts up and it looks like i put more effort into understanding their point then the posters that made it.

And with brokekid's point, your right his example was incorrect, and all i was doing was showing him that.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:42 PM   #102
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What is the thread title kurto?
This was not about proving God correct, even though it pretty much does.
Since you believe the Bible is the word of god it is in fact you trying to prove some divine knowledge is being passed from god. You're a pretty open book.

And as its been pointed out, nothing in the thread has remotely proven anything about God. Certainly nothing divine about a prohibition on food.

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It was proving the Bible correct.
But you didn't prove the Bible correct because billions of tons of that food has been eaten by people for centuries without killing them. Why this is so has already been explained in the thread and gone over your head so I won't rewrite it again.

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Now if these people who wrote it at the time knew of God. Which is why they didn't mention otherwise. If they were smart enough to figure these things all by themselves, why would they credit God?
Who knows. Perhaps they thought people would listen if they told them it came from god. Maybe people from all different culture regularly attribute things they know to their god? How much do you want to bet that someone can find a rule from a different god's holy book that is true and attributed to another god? If this happens, does it prove that their god is real? (no need to answer, the point is obvious to all and I have no doubt your response will just lead to people insulting you.)

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And this is the case with pretty much anything that is bad for you. I can go take a sip of draino and be fine. I can huff a couple helium balloons and be fine. That does not mean it isn't bad for you, and doesn't have some type of affect inside your body.
Sheesh. Not a good analogy. Because people can and do eat shrimp ALL THEIR LIVES with no ill effects. Difference for the slow-witted-
keep drinking sips of Draino every day.
keep drinking shrimp every day.

One of those will inevitably kill you. The other is done by MILLIONS of people all the time who suffer no ill effects.

No need to respond to this point since, again, its rather obvious and the fact that I'm having to write this at all demonstrates that you won't get this.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:45 PM   #103
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It is obvious, but do you not think it has more value than pointing out that salmon have fins and scales? Yes brokekid's example was incorrect. The point about farmed fish stands despite his example though, and you ignored it which is why I said your post was obtuse. My post was about you purposefully missing the point of brokekid's post, at least when I brought up my obvious point it was in an effort to move the discussion forward.
the reason that every gets frustrated with Gunth is because he never gets anyone's point. Half the people exposed to Gunth assume he's a troll because they can't understand someone beings so obtuse. People still debate if he MUST be a troll or if he really can be this obtuse.

Every thread becomes derailed with people trying to explain to Gunth what is perfectly obvious to everyone else. Which prevents most discussions from moving forward.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:48 PM   #104
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But you didn't prove the Bible correct because billions of tons of that food has been eaten by people for centuries without killing them. Why this is so has already been explained in the thread and gone over your head so I won't rewrite it again.
This was not over my head. If you actually read, you will see that i stated just because something doesn't kill you, or even make someone ill, doesn't mean it is not bad for you. God did not say that eating it will kill you.
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Who knows. Perhaps they thought people would listen if they told them it came from god. Maybe people from all different culture regularly attribute things they know to their god? How much do you want to bet that someone can find a rule from a different god's holy book that is true and attributed to another god? If this happens, does it prove that their god is real? (no need to answer, the point is obvious to all and I have no doubt your response will just lead to people insulting you.)
Now you are basically theorizing based on absolutely nothing. So i don't know how to respond to the world of kurto.

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Sheesh. Not a good analogy. Because people can and do eat shrimp ALL THEIR LIVES with no ill effects. Difference for the slow-witted-
keep drinking sips of Draino every day.
keep drinking shrimp every day.
Can you show us someone who eats shrimp every day? How bout 3 times a day every day? I can take sips of draino, though out my whole life and be fine too i bet. You really haven't demonstrated anything in this thread yet kurto. Are there not smokers that live to 100 years old?

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Shrimp are healthy for you

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