Hitler was sick of Judaic/Christianic rule, he was studying occultism, which is based on the Indus valley literature and lore (origin of the swastika). These sources are from the time in mans history in which the bible suggests we didn't really exist.

We don't have a Rosetta stone to translate it though..****ch like when we didn't have have a Rosetta stone for the pyramids. But then we found it and the bible made less/more sense.

I've been looking into the causes for disbelief and belief as a side interest for several years now. Within the first two weeks of posting in SMP I had atheists try to psychoanalyze me so I started to look into the topic. They are as much a research subject as a theist.

I've turned up a lot of different people with different takes on it so I think it's multicausal in nature. No two people are identical. Though you could think you reasoned your way to a position there is always a starting point for human behavior. Most people think early childhood but it's even earlier in the womb and if you're a believer you could trace it back even further to the parents, grandparent, etc. The believers are in a sense right because genetics form in the womb and outside influences can reach in and touch people in the womb.

You could probably look into this even better than me with your stronger science background as could all these atheists. But you have to have a strong hunch to research first.

Curt Thompson, Daniel Siegel and other people have been researching into mindfulness and attachment issues and have written on this. It's just atheists never seem to investigate them. They seem to strictly prefer Dennett and don't look at alternative and newer psychological/neuroscience info.

A+.

Someone on this board besides me finally looked into Hitler and discovered his occult connections.

He dedicated Mein Kampf to a known occultist and Himmler was an occultist.

The whole Nazi imagery is rife with it.

But all anyone bothers to look at are the labels.

Why is it everyone wants to be thorough about everything but human nature?

His swastika looks like a spider/scorpion.

You should read Ira Milligan's The Scorpion Within:
http://www.identitynetwork.net/apps/...e&itemid=35841

Jesus said "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy." (Luke 10:19 KJV)

Lets not stop at Occultism though, lets trace its roots. Perhaps the swastika looks like a spider/scorpion from your perspective. The ancient words of the Upanishads definitely threaten Judaism/Christianity and all isms. But we know the swastika was traditionally used for luck and good and naturalness of life.

As for reading you know by now prob I'm not into conditioned works.

God and Satan have been battling each other through ideas for as long as mankind's been around.

Human evolution is a constant uphill battle of change, refinement, change, isn't it?

But sometimes we can spot the joker in the deck.

by now we see the Cross has roots in the ancient swastika.

Now you're making up stuff.

The Cross is traceable back through Judaism to God's nature.

The swastika looks like someone tried to take the cross and bend it.

I guess the devil's a sore loser.

But everyone knows there's real power in the cross.

Where's the swastika? Isn't it a defunct symbol of loss while the cross is still going strong?

Please provide a source.

I'm just saying that the swastika existed before christianity (fact), there is a big hole in history (fact), Christians now use the cross (fact), the cross looks like a bent swastika (fact).

I doubt traceable is the correct word here.

You history timeline is a little skewed. What it sounds like is someone told you the Swastika came after Christianity and that it is a sign of evil.

Anyone on the other side of your division always is.

There's no such thing as a source. If you trace the roots of everything there is a big hole at the beginning.

Do you understand the origins of the swastika in our daily conversation?

There's no such thing as a source? Are you kidding me? You either made up or inferred the statement you made, or you read it somewhere. If you read it somewhere, show me where you read it.

What does this even mean?

If you source the sources and so on and so fourth it all traces to an assumption that has no source either god or A=A whichever you prefer.

It means if you trace our known history with zero bias you can see for yourself what happened.

Ugh. Somehow you're getting tripped up on very basic language. Did you read that the "Cross has roots in the ancient swastika," and if so, where?

Take a look at this page and tell me if these symbols have separate origins such as Christianity, paganism, Judaism, any-ism.....or.....do they all come from the history of mankind? (take a quick glance)

http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/cross...php?Spacing=20

Okay, so you made it up. Fair enough.