"Who needs Satan when you have a God like this?" Robert M. Price

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.” --Jesus

This quote leads me to believe that Jesus was saying that there are other paths to God which are essentially the same, such as Buddhism and Hinduism.

No, in context, Yeshua was speaking with Pharisees present and his audience was mostly Jewish, so the "other sheep" refers to Gentiles.

Mystically speaking, the kingdom of God is within each human being. The Way to get there is thru Christ, not thru Jesus from 2000 years ago, but rather, Christ consciousness.

“In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in a pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide; he knows the roads and paths better than a man who can see. When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind, old men as guides.”
― Heinrich Heine

Are you still a theist, Ace?

It doesn't sound like a theistic perspective being expressed in this quote.

Wurmbrand claimed Heine was a Satan fancier in his book on Marx.

Heine also wrote:


From Matthew 11:

As John’s disciples were leaving, Jesus began to speak to the crowd about John: 4 Jesus replied, “Go back and report to John what you hear and see: 5 The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy[b] are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor. 6 Blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of me.”

“What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed swayed by the wind? 8 If not, what did you go out to see? A man dressed in fine clothes? No, those who wear fine clothes are in kings’ palaces. 9 Then what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet.

Wiersbe explains Matthew 11:

John the Baptist was perplexed and perhaps discouraged. He had served God faithfully and yet was in prison. His work was ended, and he was not sure Jesus was ministering in the right way. When you find yourself in a similar situation do what John did: tell it to Jesus and wait for His word (vv.4-6; Isa. 35:4-6). Isaiah 50:10 is a great promise to claim in times of disappointment.

John's disciples did not hear Jesus praise their leader. John was not a compromiser (a reed) or a celebrity; he was God's greatest prophet. John was in prison because of a cruel king and a crowd that was childish (vv. 16-19) instead of childlike (v. 25).

Leave the work to the Lord (vv.20-24) and wait for Him to fulfill His perfect plan. You may think you have failed, but God will see to it that your work is blessed. In fact, John won people to Jesus long after he was dead and buried (John 10:40-42). Surrender to Christ's loving yoke and you will experience his perfect rest (vv. 25-30).

Note Isaiah 50 v.10 (NIV):

10 Who among you fears the LORD
and obeys the word of his servant?
Let the one who walks in the dark,
who has no light,
trust in the name of the LORD
and rely on their God.

Heine also said:

"I have a desire … for a few beautiful trees before my door, and if dear God wishes to make me totally happy, he will give me the joy of seeing six or seven of my enemies hanged on these trees. With a compassionate heart I will forgive them after death all the wrong they have done to me during their life. Yes, we must forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged. I am not revengeful. I would like to love my enemies. But I cannot love them before taking revenge upon them. Only then my heart opens for them. As long as one has not avenged himself, bitterness remains in the heart."

lol @ satan fancier

This being human is a guest house. Every morning is a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor...Welcome and entertain them all. Treat each guest honorably. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.

- Rumi

Seriousness is an accident of time. It consists of putting too high a value on time. In eternity there is no time. Eternity is a moment, just long enough for a joke.


You have no doubt guessed long since that the conquest of time and the escape from reality, or however else it may be that you choose to describe your longing, means simply the wish to be relieved of your so-called personality. That is the prison where you lie.

- Herman Hesse

Evelyn Waugh

Brideshead Revisited

Under the LMG's guidance, 'Godless collective farms', were formed. Yaroslavsky in 1932 predicted that the campaign would be successful, when he said:


"There can be no doubt that the fact that the new state of the USSR led by the communist party, with a program permeated by the spirit of militant atheism, gives the reason why this state is successfully surmounting the great difficulties that stand in its way - that neither "heavenly powers" nor the exhortations of all the priests in all the world can prevent its attaining its aims it has set itself."

The Christian's Bible is a drug store. Its contents remain the same; but the medical practice changes.... The world has corrected the Bible. The church never corrects it; and also never fails to drop in at the tail of the procession -- and take the credit of the correction. During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. the Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after eight hundred years, gathered up its halters, thumb-screws, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood.
Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.... There are no witches. The witch text remains; only the practice has changed. Hell fire is gone, but the text remains. Infant damnation is gone, but the text remains. More than two hundred death penalties are gone from the law books, but the texts that authorized them remain.
-- Mark Twain

"There's two possible outcomes: if the result confirms the hypothesis, then you've made a discovery. If the result is contrary to the hypothesis, then you've made a discovery." --Enrico Fermi

Hi NR!

"I recall once after an overdose of majoun...[I look] across the living room of that villa outside Tanger and suddenly don't know where I am. Perhaps I have opened the wrong door and at any moment The Man In Possession, The Owner Who Got There First will rush in and scream:

'What Are You Doing Here? Who Are You?'

And I don't know what I am doing there nor who I am. I decide to play it cool and maybe I will get the orientation before the Owner shows...So instead of yelling "Where Am I?" cool it and look around and you will find out approximately...You were not there for The Beginning. You will not be there for The End...Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative...What do I know of this yellow blighted young junky face subsisting on raw opium?"
- William S. Burroughs, Naked Lunch

Howdy.

I got one quote out of Lolita (toughest read I ever struggled all the way through)

I'm guessing the last two quotes require some context to understand the profoundness communicated? If not they're going over my head.

In mine I'm quoting the main character (can't remember his name) who had conducted a lengthy affair with Delores from the time she was about 12. He was an incurable pedophile and at the time of the quote was feeling guilt for having ruined her childhood. He could see no hope for ever getting over this feeling unless someone could prove his actions really don't matter in the long run.

Edit: Lolita was his nickname for Delores.

A current favorite quote by someone who knew the bible and wrote a commentary on it that current biblical revisionism cannot destroy.

“Eve was not taken out of Adam's head to top him, neither out of his feet to be trampled on by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected by him, and near his heart to be loved by him.” Matthew Henry

It's also pretty good at dispelling atheist feminist rhetoric.

Thank God for the Matthew Henrys of the world. If I had grown up around atheists they'd have turned me into a miserable man-hating feminist.

What's more miserable than thinking other people are conspiring against you all the time?

Of course on the poker table they are....it doesn't mean you have to carry it over to life.

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
-Timothy 2:12

Did you ever look into the context of this or just take it literally?

Who was Priscilla then who Paul praised?

4.Acts 18:26: He (Apollos) began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.

5.Romans 16:3-4: Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them.

6.1 Corinthians 16:19: The churches in the province of Asia send you greetings. Aquila and Priscilla greet you warmly in the Lord, and so does the church that meets at their house.

This is NOT a debate thread. Post quotes you like. Simple.

"... when people thought the Earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the Earth was spherical they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the Earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the Earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

-Isaac Asimov

Sorry you didn't enjoy it. :/

I'm probably missing something but I think it's the worst novel I've ever read, for a "mainstream, serious" work. I truly don't understand how Lolita makes so many all time top ten lists. Of course, Tolstoy thought Shakespeare was junk, and Twain and Conrad hated Austen, so I'm in good company.

It's you.

“But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?”
- Charles Darwin