Philosophy of disproving religion.
10-31-2015
, 07:23 PM
11-11-2015
, 09:23 AM
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Love this post. Keeping it real brother!
As with all things of complexity, it takes time. Most people are not so gifted mentally and thus stay brainwashed and keep believing in fairy tales. Things are changing though, back in the day Atheism was unheard of and 2000 years later its here folks. This is how long it takes, no point to dwell over it either. You will also always have people who are rebels and simply go against what is right because they hate being told what to do and will continue to believe in fairly tales despite the evidence.
Most people are like sheep and they are comfort creatures. They don't like change either.
So naturally they just go with the flow. In another 2000 years everyone will be Atheist because religion will have been bred out. People follow whatever hype or trend, just look around you. Most likely Atheism has not caught on just yet. But when it does people will follow. Not because they actually researched or found good evidence to follow but because they are people and simply just follow. That's my take on humans anyway.
All humans are children in my opinion. Just look how this world is run, need I say more. They are all God's children, don't blame them. Judges, politicians, lawyers, police, teachers etc etc etc all of those professions you'd think they'd be mature and adults in those kind of positions at least. But are they? Are they really mature enough to teach or to judge? Should they even be allowed to judge? Are politicians mature enough to run a country? Well are they? Not really right. Most are money hungry scum but I say don't blame them as they are just children. They know it, they actually believe it, they actually have a legitimate argument, in that of the Bible/ religion. They simply believe they are Gods children. So when they act so foolishly and sentence somebody to jail or even have the nerve to actually show up to work in uniform and try to convince me or other like minded people that they are adults and are doing adult like jobs is just so ****ing lol.
I would like to know though what is the possibility/mathematical probability of a planet out there that God lives on in paradise with like minded individuals?
I am no believer in the God theory per se but with so many galaxies and planets out there it is conceivable that such a place exists. Most likely not a God or paradise/heaven but if you think in terms of Alien or even in terms of what we humans are capable of doing say in 1 million years from now we could create Nirvana.
The Universe being 13 billions years old it is not implausible that an ancient civilization out there way more advanced than us actually lives as close to a place as Paradise as humanly possible.
As with all things of complexity, it takes time. Most people are not so gifted mentally and thus stay brainwashed and keep believing in fairy tales. Things are changing though, back in the day Atheism was unheard of and 2000 years later its here folks. This is how long it takes, no point to dwell over it either. You will also always have people who are rebels and simply go against what is right because they hate being told what to do and will continue to believe in fairly tales despite the evidence.
Most people are like sheep and they are comfort creatures. They don't like change either.
So naturally they just go with the flow. In another 2000 years everyone will be Atheist because religion will have been bred out. People follow whatever hype or trend, just look around you. Most likely Atheism has not caught on just yet. But when it does people will follow. Not because they actually researched or found good evidence to follow but because they are people and simply just follow. That's my take on humans anyway.
All humans are children in my opinion. Just look how this world is run, need I say more. They are all God's children, don't blame them. Judges, politicians, lawyers, police, teachers etc etc etc all of those professions you'd think they'd be mature and adults in those kind of positions at least. But are they? Are they really mature enough to teach or to judge? Should they even be allowed to judge? Are politicians mature enough to run a country? Well are they? Not really right. Most are money hungry scum but I say don't blame them as they are just children. They know it, they actually believe it, they actually have a legitimate argument, in that of the Bible/ religion. They simply believe they are Gods children. So when they act so foolishly and sentence somebody to jail or even have the nerve to actually show up to work in uniform and try to convince me or other like minded people that they are adults and are doing adult like jobs is just so ****ing lol.
I would like to know though what is the possibility/mathematical probability of a planet out there that God lives on in paradise with like minded individuals?
I am no believer in the God theory per se but with so many galaxies and planets out there it is conceivable that such a place exists. Most likely not a God or paradise/heaven but if you think in terms of Alien or even in terms of what we humans are capable of doing say in 1 million years from now we could create Nirvana.
The Universe being 13 billions years old it is not implausible that an ancient civilization out there way more advanced than us actually lives as close to a place as Paradise as humanly possible.
As long as we reached a point where we went "ah right, we are all basically that term and for anyone or thing anywhere to declare themselves as that, especially with boom potential is corrupt as ****" then there is a next to nill chance there isn't utopia through out most of the multi-multiverse and if nothing else, where it ever done once ever we as energy would of got a lock down on it and it would of become the ultraverse as time does its thing.
This one planet to two planet nonsense is beyond disheartening on difficulty, we will get through it through, hang in there, gets easier. :-)
And if I may; Consider infinite repetition on universes and the ability for a species to move from one universe to another. Age of universe becomes almost trivial by comparison at that point after clearing through the shock to the comfort zones within belief systems.
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Really? This isn't clear to me at all. What is it that you think religion failed at?
Also, as in most cases when people say that something is logical, your claim here has little to do with logic and (my guess) a lot to do with what seems intutively obvious to you.
I'm doubtful that this is how we stop religion. Logic, reason, and "cognitive thinking" have been around as long as religion without seeming to do much to stop it.
Maybe. Seems unlikely to me though. Let me ask you a question: what social function does religion perform such that it is so common and hard to get rid of in different societies? Or does it have no function? What other explanation for the prevalence of religion do you then think is correct?
This does seem like a problem. Feeling a lot of anger towards a bunch of dead people seems pretty pointless.
Also, as in most cases when people say that something is logical, your claim here has little to do with logic and (my guess) a lot to do with what seems intutively obvious to you.
I'm doubtful that this is how we stop religion. Logic, reason, and "cognitive thinking" have been around as long as religion without seeming to do much to stop it.
Maybe. Seems unlikely to me though. Let me ask you a question: what social function does religion perform such that it is so common and hard to get rid of in different societies? Or does it have no function? What other explanation for the prevalence of religion do you then think is correct?
This does seem like a problem. Feeling a lot of anger towards a bunch of dead people seems pretty pointless.
Also, you appear to have avoided the point being made and turned it into a personal attack. Instead of avoiding the logic being made by asserting it has little to do with logic, try responding to the point being made! :-)
Our ability for cognitive thinking has increased drastically since the availability of global communication and the internet! If you may, could you attempt to respond to an argument on logic, reason and cognitive thinking with logic reason or cognitive thinking! Would you not find it likely that intelligence would of increased in the last few thousand years? Does it really require another 1000 years before minds are able to go, oh. Right, that took a while. I do not think so at least!
As for your question, as per the start of this response. Religion provides a group complexity reduction so as to enable a comfort zone for those not wanting to think, or who gave up on the 'deep' stuff and went for the basic option.
Then once in a comfort zone, aside from becoming attached to it and addicted to perpetuating the nonsense there are community groups of others that can quite literally start providing homes away from homes for individuals looking for companionship. Aside from that, masculines are quite obviously asshats and religion provides an excellent opportunity to abuse their partners into thinking they are somehow not equal.
Really not getting your last point, there are different generations alive today. No idea how old you are. However, a similar argument remains, why should 'we' have to do it right? Surely the next generation can take care of it! /Deathstare
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The Universe is not 13 billion years old.. We're simply removed 13 billion light years in time/space from the point we consider as an only frame of reference. It's fascinating how physicists keep perpetrating memes like 'oldness' when talking about reality. I mean.. aren't they supposed to be.. physicists?
The Universe does not change. It simply unfolds.
On the topic - idiots like Dawkins and co. propagate a funny meme that what they can't disprove must be wrong. (Yeah, I know they like to twist the words around.) It's almost insulting. If you can't disprove it it's either your own problem (let's call it a lack of responsibility or imagination) or it's because it's true. And Popper was an idiot and if you disagree with this statement, then you are as well.
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The Universe does not change. It simply unfolds.
On the topic - idiots like Dawkins and co. propagate a funny meme that what they can't disprove must be wrong. (Yeah, I know they like to twist the words around.) It's almost insulting. If you can't disprove it it's either your own problem (let's call it a lack of responsibility or imagination) or it's because it's true. And Popper was an idiot and if you disagree with this statement, then you are as well.
k tnx bye
To start with. How is it that you reached a 13 billion year time frame on this universe? As you insulting physicists.
While also bringing up Memes like their are common knowledge and insulting Richard Dawkins.
Do. You. Even.
Given that you understand it so well, may you explain the factors involved in deciding the outcome of events where multiple consciousnesses are attempting to experience the favorable outcome? As in say, a pot in a live game of poker.
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"Thoughts create reality". Thoughts only influence reality.
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11-12-2015
, 08:56 AM
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