someone once said that cynicism is always a sign of weakness!

i don't want to try to defend splendour here by any means but... common
~9 guys against 1 woman

kinda ridiculous

Over the years, she's been told the same thing every few months by many different people.

She either doesn't care, or doesn't believe it (despite many people independently telling her the same thing).

Whatever it is that she thinks she's doing on here, it certainly isn't god's work.

Meh, she out posts us all.

I'll excuse myself from the conversation as we've kind of drifted into your fixations now with this off the wall introduction of hell doctrine into the conversation.

Besides I haven't got much interest in suppositions. I know from reading a real record of trial of a sex criminal and reading the biographical account of a sex offender that porn was a factor in their crimes. Also the famous case of the sex offender David Westover shows it, too.

I just don't take arguments at all seriously when they run counter to documented facts and I certainly don't want to dignify them with a counter argument when people can seriously research this topic beyond mere opinions. When they do that they will encounter that human behavior covers a spectrum of responses and behaviors and what seems to float one person's boat capsizes another person's.

Opinions and arguments are frequently flawed because people personalize and overgeneralize way too much based on their own biased perceptions.

Divorce can be bad or good depending on the circumstances. Over all I would say the rise in divorce rates is a good thing. More people are marrying for love and divorcing then they fall out of love instead of the financial arrangement of the man provides wealth and comfort and the woman provides babies and divorce meant financial ruin for the woman.

Some religious fundamentalists reject set theory

http://boingboing.net/2012/08/07/wha...damentali.html

Actually the number of kids growing up in poverty has skyrocketed along with the divorce rate.

Are you going to provide some actual data, or just keep asserting?

1. Citation is needed

2. That correlation not causation if true

3. I said divorce is good or bad depending on the circumstances. A childless marriage that ends in divorce isn't intrinsically bad, likewise a divorce with children can be good. The rising divorce rate isn't in itself a sign of the decay of civilization.

I'll keep asserting as it should be obvious.

When you split up a couple with children you frequently create 2 households. So it takes more to support two households and the associated rents of the respective domiciles than it does to support one.

Lots of people have reduced income after a divorce and they like to complain about it.

Nope, sorry, doesn't work that way. There was a poster in RGT recently asserting that women have a significantly lower IQ than men...and that it should be obvious. When we asked for data and he couldn't provide it, he was forced to change his conclusion. The same is true for you.

Quotes:

"Single mothers are nine times more likely to live in deep poverty than the married family, with incomes less than half of the official poverty line."
David J. Eggebeen and Daniel T. Lichter, "Race, Family Structure, and Changing Poverty Among American Children," American Sociological Review 56 (December 1991), 807. Cited on page31 ofThe Abolition of Marriage, by Maggie Gallagher


MORE CHILDREN ARE POOR
Study shows Va. count up 34% from '89 to '93
BY CARLOS SANTOS/ Times-Dispatch Staff Writer
"The number of poor children in Virginia grew by an astounding 34 percent from 1989 to 1993, according to a just-released University of Virginia study. Michael Spar, a demographer with U.Va.'s Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service, said a primary reason for the increase was a lack of a comprehensive anti-poverty program for children and increases in immigration and in the numbers of divorce and illegitimate births. . . . 'I was very much surprised,' said Spar, an associate professor at U.Va. "
RICHMOND TIMES DISPATCH / Tuesday, November 18, 1997. Sent by the Coalition for Marriage, Family and Couples Education, LLC


"Four times as many divorced women with children fell under the poverty line than married women with children. "
Brian Willats, Breaking Up is Easy To Do, available from Michigan Family Forum, citing Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1993, p. 385.


"Single and divorced mothers, because of their poverty, 'are able to give less social and financial support to their own adult kids.'"
Lynn White, "The Effects of Parental Divorce and Remarriage on Parental Support for Adult Children," Journal of Family Issues (June 1992): 234ff. Barbara Grissis, "Effects of Parental Divorce on Children's Financial Support for college." Journal of Divorce and Remarriage 22, no. 1/2 (1994): 155ff. Cited on page 44 ofThe Abolition of Marriage, by Maggie Gallagher


"Eighty percent of children who grow up in a two-parent household never experience poverty during the first ten years of their lives. By contrast, only 27 percent of children living in single-parent households maintained the same high standard."
"No-Fault Divorce: Proposed Solutions to a National Tragedy," 1993 Journal of Legal Studies 2, 22, citing William Galston, A Liberal-Democratic Case for the Two-Parent Family, THE RESPONSIVE COMMUNITY 14, 17 (1990).


"According to the Census Bureau, children whose parents divorce are almost twice as likely to drop into poverty than they were before the marital split. Overall, children whose fathers leave the home see their household incomes plummet by 26 percent."
Brian Willats, Breaking Up is Easy To Do, available from Michigan Family Forum, citing Suzanne Bianchi and Edith McArthur, Family Disruption and Economic Hardship, U.S. Census Bureau, 1991. Cited in Kenneth Jost and Marilyn Robinson, "Children and Divorce:What can be done to help children of divorce," CQ Researcher, June 7, 1991, p. 358.


"The vast majority of children who are raised entirely in a two-parent home will never be poor during childhood. By contrast, the vast majority of children who spend time in a single-parent home will experience poverty."
Brian Willats, Breaking Up is Easy To Do, available from Michigan Family Forum, quoting Harvard Prof. David Ellwood, Poor Support, (New York: Basic Books, 1988), p. 46.


"A child that is born out of wedlock is 30 times more likely to live in poverty than a child that was born in a marriage and whose parents stayed married."
National Center for Children in Poverty, Five Million Children, 29, Table 2. Cited on page32 ofThe Abolition of Marriage, by Maggie Gallagher

More cites here from Americans for Divorce Reform, Inc.:
http://www.divorcereform.org/pov.html

Please cull out the non-divorced single parent households. It's not applicable to the conversation and severly altering the data. Also you need to account for divorce rates in high poverty populations compared to low poverty populations. It's the difference between causation and correlation.

I'm not sure I get where this is coming from, but are you claiming that porn leads to sexual assault? Because I'm pretty sure the studies support the idea that porn is not to blame. A sex offender may blame porn, and that may even be accurate, but overall there is no causation here.

I've seen it claimed in 2 real cases and seen it implied in a third.

Actually I've seen it claimed in a fourth also. You can read Judith Reisman's wiki. She's very anti-porn and has written a lot of articles on it and holds it responsible for an attack on a family member of her's.