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05-16-2014 , 11:50 PM
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This leaves us with option two: promote those who are deserving to heaven.
There wouldn't be a need for heaven or hell if no one falls and there would be none more or less deserving. I wouldn't think.
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05-17-2014 , 05:52 AM
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I don't think it makes sense to speculate about the faith retention rates in this hypothetical world. We can easily come up with ways to solve this supposed problem.
Isn't most of the discussion we've been having based on speculation (and many more in this forum)?
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05-17-2014 , 07:11 AM
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I'm not sure of the opening premise, I don't think man was immortal before expulsion from the garden of eden, the tree of life seems pretty poorly understood or at least not consistently understood but I don't recall them ever eating of it.
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05-17-2014 , 03:50 PM
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I'm not sure of the opening premise, I don't think man was immortal before expulsion from the garden of eden, the tree of life seems pretty poorly understood or at least not consistently understood but I don't recall them ever eating of it.
In Gen 3:22 specifically says that God prevents them from eating of it.
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05-17-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Isn't most of the discussion we've been having based on speculation (and many more in this forum)?
Sure, I just don't think the problem you are bringing up constitutes a serious issue. Even if we posit that the number of faithful will be regressing over time there are many possibilities to counteract this. Then we get into third and fourth level speculating.
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05-17-2014 , 04:35 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Adam and Eve like the bible story explains been proven to be false? I know Catholic priests who would rather call it a story. Science has shown that there are thousands of starting points of gene pools. Immortality isn't plausible, it contradicts natural human aging.
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05-17-2014 , 04:48 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Adam and Eve like the bible story explains been proven to be false? I know Catholic priests who would rather call it a story. Science has shown that there are thousands of starting points of gene pools. Immortality isn't plausible, it contradicts natural human aging.
Some Christians take the story to be metaphorical.

With regards to immortality, human aging is the process in which death arises, it is because we degenerate (aging) THAT we die. This degeneration of our bodies is what is said to have begun once sin entered the world.

This has problems in itself, but that is a common interpretation.
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05-18-2014 , 05:12 AM
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I mean, the only truly honest answer to the question is we don't know. The Bible doesn't outline the "what if" of a sinless humanity. I mean, humans were given the instruction to populate and care for the Earth, I guess theoretically they could fulfill this purpose and then just stop cranking out babies. If we're starting with the premise that these people are sinless, it should be no trouble for them to stop ****ing to fulfill gods will.
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05-22-2014 , 12:53 PM
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See Romans 5:12-21.
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