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02-24-2010, 08:56 PM
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fkn jerkoff good cop shill
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by checkm8
Yea, I'm not very interested in the contemporary claims about 9/11 or anything of the sort - just interested in Christianity relationship to other religions. Searching now for what you described, hopefully I can find it.
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I think this is it. The site is run by a skeptic.
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02-25-2010, 07:53 PM
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#122
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by checkm8
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YOU SHOULD NOT BE AN ATHEIST, YOU NEED GOD TO TELL YOU WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. GTFO
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02-26-2010, 02:30 AM
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#123
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by Ryanb9
YOU SHOULD NOT BE AN ATHEIST, YOU NEED GOD TO TELL YOU WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. GTFO
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Why would you think that me posting these videos indicates I'm an Atheist or contemplating becoming one? I'm agnostic bro.
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02-26-2010, 02:51 AM
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#124
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern VA, USA
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by checkm8
Why would you think that me posting these videos indicates I'm an Atheist or contemplating becoming one? I'm agnostic bro.
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Are you theist (i.e. do you believe in a deity or deities)? If not, you're atheist (i.e. you lack a belief in a deity or deities). You have to be one or the other, you can't be neither and you can't be both. Gnosticism is irrelevant.
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02-26-2010, 01:52 PM
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#125
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by checkm8
Why would you think that me posting these videos indicates I'm an Atheist or contemplating becoming one? I'm agnostic bro.
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YOU SHOULD NOT BE AN ATHEIST, YOU NEED GOD TO TELL YOU WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. GTFO
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02-27-2010, 01:14 AM
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#126
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: The Bellagio vault
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Christianity did borrow from nearby religions, just not the ones in the movie, or at least the movie way overstated the similarities. There's a website you can probably track down that goes through it point by point. it's a shame, since the basic point is valid.
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I agree with this post. They exaggerate or even fabricate a lot of the supposed links, which muddies their original point, which is a good one.
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02-27-2010, 05:57 PM
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#127
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by DMoogle
Are you theist (i.e. do you believe in a deity or deities)? If not, you're atheist (i.e. you lack a belief in a deity or deities). You have to be one or the other, you can't be neither and you can't be both. Gnosticism is irrelevant.
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I do not fit into your imposed framework, sorry. I do not know one way or the other, and because of a glaring lack of evidence both ways I do not form an opinion on something that is unknowable.
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02-27-2010, 05:58 PM
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#128
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by Ryanb9
YOU SHOULD NOT BE AN ATHEIST, YOU NEED GOD TO TELL YOU WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. GTFO
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WTF, GTFO TROLLPANTIES. I triangle choke your reason.
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02-27-2010, 11:21 PM
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#129
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern VA, USA
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by checkm8
I do not fit into your imposed framework, sorry. I do not know one way or the other, and because of a glaring lack of evidence both ways I do not form an opinion on something that is unknowable.
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Lack of opinion -> lack of belief -> atheist.
You seem to have the (common) misconception that to be an atheist means that you believe there are no deities. That's only one type of atheism (it is commonly referred to as strong atheism). To be an atheist is to simply lack a belief in deities. If you have no opinion, then by default you are an atheist.
FWIW I thought I called myself an agnostic for like 10 years before I learned that what I really meant was that I was an atheist. I, like you, have not seen convincing evidence that deities do or do not exist, so I don't believe in them (which does NOT mean I believe they don't exist). So, I'm an atheist. And so are you. We are weak atheists.
Here's some really good reading material that explains exactly what this means: http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutath...atheism101.htm
Last edited by DMoogle; 02-27-2010 at 11:29 PM.
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03-03-2010, 05:12 PM
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Enemy of the State
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: I Didn't Vote, Bitch
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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03-03-2010, 07:51 PM
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#132
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old hand
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: old school online player
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by nittyit
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Avalos is terrible in this video. He gives the same argument over and over, and his voice is annoying.
In the Q&A, Avalos refuses to answer one student's question because it isn't phrased "respectfully." Craig gets asked some pretty ridiculous questions, but he answers them as fully as possible.
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03-05-2010, 02:32 AM
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#133
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by always_sunni_
Avalos is terrible in this video. He gives the same argument over and over, and his voice is annoying.
In the Q&A, Avalos refuses to answer one student's question because it isn't phrased "respectfully." Craig gets asked some pretty ridiculous questions, but he answers them as fully as possible.
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Ya hes a one trick pony but his trick is not bad.
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03-09-2010, 06:21 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Having recently seen it, I'd recommend anyone and everyone to watch Marjoe. It looks like the whole thing can be seen on youtube, but it's out on DVD, Netflix, Rapidshare, etc.
I think it's particularly interesting because at that time the whole big-tent evangelism thing was something of a fringe phenomenon. Amazing that an Oscar-winning documentary which essentially claims the entire thing is a hustle didn't prevent it becoming a billion-dollar industry.
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The MarJoe video was special for me as I spent the first 20 years of my life in this denomination.
Btw, I agree with another poster that liked you old avatar.
TheStallion76 on youtube does some very interesting phone calls to various churchs and ask the preachers to explain various verses. He has many videos in this format. I’ll give you three. I believe that both the theist and atheist will find them interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Upip_0bEo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAquNPFeEYw
http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/29118927
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03-09-2010, 06:51 PM
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#135
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Re: ****Official RGT video thread****
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Originally Posted by brandx
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Very nice. I enjoyed this.
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