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Old 07-05-2009, 12:15 PM   #126
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I would learn C before C++, and get Kernighan and Ritchie's "The C Programming Language." It may not be the best start, but it's small enough that you can reliably expect to learn everything in it. I would also go through "The C++ Programming Language" by Bjarne Strousrup, though you don't need to dogear that one. This advice probably makes me sound like an old man, but C++ is versatile enough that some knowledge of memory manipulation and a basic understanding of the core capabilities of the language as well as how the abstraction actually works will give you much more solid footing, even if 90% of what you do doesn't require that.

Also, as a self-taught programmer, going through the nuts 'sand bolts helped me gain some skill in areas that computer science majors in formal schooling would be covering in their classes. It's really sad when a coder doesn't understand basic search algorithms.
I spoke with a programmer and said that I wanted to learn C++ and she told me just to learn Java as that is what most stuff is made in anyway. She said that C++ was much harder to learn and much more cumbersome. That's why I thought Java was the best to learn. I don't ever expect to make a career out of it, I just like to learn stuff and programming is something that I find interesting and would very much like to be able to create my own programs.

I am assuming that those are books that you are talking about? Do you know if you can get free online copies?

And that's awesome that you taught yourself these things. How long did it take you to learn?
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Old 07-05-2009, 12:48 PM   #127
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Yeah, they're books, and unfortunately I don't know how to get them online. I mean, there are always "options" if you know what I mean.

Java is definitely easier, and you don't have to worry about much when using it. If you want to play around, I think it's a good recommendation. C++ you can try to learn the easy way, but you'll just be memorizing and not understanding (which I think will hurt you in the long run much more than taking 100 to 200 hours and getting a solid background that lets you grasp the concepts).

How long, well, gotta go, but I started at 12 and probably was 19 before I'd consider myself competent, though I still have plenty more to learn.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:50 PM   #128
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Any of you guys hear about the Atheist Experience? It's a pretty cool show, they get theists to call in and discuss beliefs.
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Old 07-06-2009, 12:08 AM   #129
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Any of you guys hear about the Atheist Experience? It's a pretty cool show, they get theists to call in and discuss beliefs.
I watched a bunch of them. The host is smart and good at explanations, but the callers are real lame ducks. It is entertaining though.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:04 AM   #130
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:15 AM   #131
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I watched a bunch of them. The host is smart and good at explanations, but the callers are real lame ducks. It is entertaining though.
So, its like televised RGT.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:18 AM   #132
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I watched a bunch of them. The host is smart and good at explanations, but the callers are real lame ducks. It is entertaining though.
The live stream has a bunch of old episodes saved, and they air every sunday. They have had some decent theistic callers, Matt is a great host though and I tend to agree with most of what he says.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:03 PM   #133
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I got a 10 on my third actuarial exam!

For those of you who don't know what that is, it means I studied too much.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:06 PM   #134
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I got a 10 on my third actuarial exam!

For those of you who don't know what that is, it means I studied too much.
Prior to now, this was my only exposure to the word actuarial:



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Old 07-07-2009, 02:43 AM   #135
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for some reason i just remembered this from years ago
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Just then... POPE SMASH!!!!!!!
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #136
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Anyone here read Anne Coulter's book Godless?

I was eating dinner w/ my mother in law last night and she asked me to read the chapter on evolution so she could get a scientists take on its accuracy.

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Old 07-10-2009, 12:12 AM   #137
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Anyone here read Anne Coulter's book Godless?

I was eating dinner w/ my mother in law last night and she asked me to read the chapter on evolution so she could get a scientists take on its accuracy.

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Ha! I have no interest in reading that book, but now I wanna stop by the bookstore and read that chapter just for the lulz.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:17 AM   #138
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:09 AM   #139
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Anyone here read Anne Coulter's book Godless?

I was eating dinner w/ my mother in law last night and she asked me to read the chapter on evolution so she could get a scientists take on its accuracy.

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That good huh? Post some stuff here.
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Old 07-10-2009, 02:54 PM   #140
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Chapter 8- The Creation Myth (of the Church of Liberalism): On the 6th Day God Created Fruit Flies
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The Liberals' creation myth is Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution, which is one notch above Scientology in scientific rigor. It's a make believe story based on a theory that's a tautology with no proof in the scientists' laboratories or the fossil record, and that's after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn't still be talking about this, but for the fact that liberals' think that evolution disproves God.
And because I like my mother in-law, I have to read ~40 pages of this garbage.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:04 PM   #141
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The Liberals' creation myth is Charles Darwin's Theory of Evolution, which is one notch above Scientology in scientific rigor. It's a make believe story based on a theory that's a tautology with no proof in the scientists' laboratories or the fossil record, and that's after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn't still be talking about this, but for the fact that liberals' think that evolution disproves God.
Now I am certainly not a Evolution fanboy, but comparing it to Scientology is just absurd. This kinda stuff really bothers me. This is just an ad hominem that has no place in christian publications.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #142
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Charles Darwin's theory is nothing but a circular statement. Through the process of natural selection the fittest "survive." Who are the fittest? The ones who survive! Why look, it happens every time! The survival of the fittest would be a joke if it weren't part of the belief system of a fanatical cult infecting the scientific community.
I mean, LOL. And it's not even ad hominem, it's patently false. There is plenty of proof in the fossil record, but even if the fossil record didn't exist at all there is as much biomolecular evidence for evolution as there is for current theory on gravitation, relativity, germ theory, etc. The above paragraph is my favorite so far, because she's saying "of course the fittest survive." I bet we could easily get here to say "of course the survivors reproduce the most." Probably also "of course reproduction occurs through egg fertilization and genetic recombination."

Variation, mutation, selection.
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Now I am certainly not a Evolution fanboy, but comparing it to Scientology is just absurd. This kinda stuff really bothers me. This is just an ad hominem that has no place in christian publications.
ann coulter isn't a christian writer, she is an inflammatory writer. everything she writes is designed to be as ridiculous as possible because it gets her interviews and more book deals.
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:17 PM   #144
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Now I am certainly not a Evolution fanboy, but comparing it to Scientology is just absurd. This kinda stuff really bothers me. This is just an ad hominem that has no place in christian publications.
Oh i wouldn't worry, Coulter is simply an idiot. Any belief system or opinion is going to be held by a few idiots, and some of those idiots will always be loud.
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Oh i wouldn't worry, Coulter is simply an idiot. Any belief system or opinion is going to be held by a few idiots, and some of those idiots will always be loud.
that is the thing, she is very smart, a neighbour of mine knows her and apparently it is all an act. she has found an endless flow of cash. when was the last time anyone made this much money on books this poorly written? well, besides dan brown that is.
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that is the thing, she is very smart, a neighbour of mine knows her and apparently it is all an act. she has found an endless flow of cash. when was the last time anyone made this much money on books this poorly written? well, besides dan brown that is.
Ok then she's good at pretending to be an idiot. I don't find that implausible at all, especially since she supposedly passed law school and writes like someone I'd bet against getting a High School diploma.

Still, even if she was 100% honest I don't think anyone with a brain is going to think she speaks for any group of people with a mean IQ >50
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:22 PM   #147
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Charles Darwin's theory is nothing but a circular statement. Through the process of natural selection the fittest "survive." Who are the fittest? The ones who survive! Why look, it happens every time! The survival of the fittest would be a joke if it weren't part of the belief system of a fanatical cult infecting the scientific community.
lol, she doesn't seem to understand what a circular argument is, she also seems to not understand what "fittest" means. Of all of the things to attack, why on earth would she attack the one thing that absolutely everyone agrees on. Both creationist and evolutionist.

Does she talk about genetic mutation at all?
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:29 PM   #148
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Still, even if she was 100% honest I don't think anyone with a brain is going to think she speaks for any group of people with a mean IQ >50
You forget that people like to read stuff they agree with. If someone wanted to believe that evolution was complete bunk, then after reading this book they could say to themselves "see even this woman with a law degree agrees with me." and "I recently read in a book that said evolution is as proven as Scientology"
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You forget that people like to read stuff they agree with. If someone wanted to believe that evolution was complete bunk, then after reading this book they could say to themselves "see even this woman with a law degree agrees with me." and "I recently read in a book that said evolution is as proven as Scientology"
i think even more powerful is that people love to read stuff that makes them feel good about themselves. anyone feels well informed and intelligent when reading ann coulter. hell, when i see one of her books in a bookstore i can't help but pick it up. i wouldn't be surprised if >10% of sales were from gag gifts.
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i think even more powerful is that people love to read stuff that makes them feel good about themselves. anyone feels well informed and intelligent when reading ann coulter. hell, when i see one of her books in a bookstore i can't help but pick it up. i wouldn't be surprised if >10% of sales were from gag gifts.
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