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Originally Posted by Original Position
Splendour, I've read some of Wurmbrand's writings, and while what he suffered was obviously a terrible injustice, it doesn't make what he says about Marx correct. In fact, his understanding of Marx is severely deficient.
I'll also say that your criticisms of Marx seem pretty unfair to me. First, Marx did work--he worked as a writer and political theorist. It is true that his income was supplemented by his friends, but philosophers and other thinkers have relied on such patronage for centuries. Second, suggesting that he was at fault for his children committing suicide seems incredibly thoughtless. Do you know the parents of someone who has committed suicide? Would you condemn them in the same way?
I just wanted to re-post this so you can consider it.
Ideas are like seeds...they can be intentionally spread before they implant.
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Yeah the idea of rebelling has to be implanted in you.
Look at the early communist leaders. All they did initially was implant the idea of rebellion in people. They fomented rebellion and they were ruthless in their pursuit of spreading it.
Rebellion is not a Judaic or Christian idea.
Jews and Christian religions tend to stress obedience in adversity.
That's why it's not far fetched to think Marx was influenced by the devil and he in turn implanted his rebellious ideas on the rest of the world.
An atheist could be easier to plant a rebellious idea on than a theist because God specifically tells theists in the OT to obey authorities because they are God given and in the NT he tells people not to be lawless.
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Then again I could be wrong about that because Americans revolted against Britain.
So revolution could be good or bad.
That's why the bible says to examine the fruit.
The fruits always tell you what kind of seed something is from: devilish or godly.
Since one of the fruits of the communists in the U.S.S.R. was 21 million dead theists we can conclude that the seed of Marxist Communism was devilish.
"You'll know the tree by its' fruits." Never a truer saying. Marxist Communism was the dead tree and it bore a lot of dead fruit.
Last edited by Splendour; 01-01-2012 at 03:23 PM.
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