Right now gskowal's making himself look like an idiot up in the RGT article thread.

Communism is a system.

Windows is a system. The mind behind is Bill Gates.

Macintosh is a system. The mind behind is Steven Jobs.

There's always a mind behind a system.

And the mind behind communism was an atheistic one as demonstrated by their behaviors and the objects of their actions.

There is not always a mind behind a system. For instance , an ecosystem.

Communism is a man made system.

The revolution that led to communism was organized.

It didn't arise randomly. There were atheistic minds behind it organizing it.

Nothing more to see here folks, move along now.

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Unless of course you realize Marx was a Satanist. Satan always tries to counterfeit God.

You could credit communism to satanism and that means the atheists merely collaborated with the devil while they were blind.

I lean towards Marx being a Satanist rather than an atheist though I could change my mind.

Early Christianity exhibited good communism while Marxism is bad communism or Satan's bad counterfeit.

Read Wurmbrand. He explains why Marx was a Satanist. Wurmbrand grew up and lived under and was tortured by the communist devils.

Isn't Marx all about the money?

All about controlling the means of production.

Read Acts 5. Ananias and Sapphira decide to control their "production". Didn't they have hearts just like Marx thinking they would cheat God and control production?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+5&version=NIV

Read Wurmbrand. Marx refused to work for his own family while they lived in poverty though he could have easily worked. He preferred begging off of Engels and waiting on inheritances from dead family members he cared nothing about.

Marx is very similar to Stalin. They both messed up most if not all of the members of their own families. They both had children that committed suicide.

Someone said that maybe teebeedee saw David Icke videos. You replied that you didn't see the videos. I don't understand your response except as a misread.

Maybe I did.

remski said he/she and I thought he meant me.

So...instead of leaving RGT, youve compromised by consolidating all your posts to this thread and article thread? Just curious is all. Be well Splendour.

It's like an episode of 'United States of Tara' up in here right now. I will echo Wizard-50's sentiment; be well Splendour.

I see nothing has changed since I left.

I've never heard of the "United States of Tara" but yes, I'm leaving.

I'm tired of playing with the hyenas on here.

I'm a lion gal. It'll take a bigger pack of hyenas than they've got on here to take me down.

Look at all the hyenas skulking in here under an "NSFW" thread. Why is it "NSFW"...why are they running scared in a pack under a false thread label?

I tried to turn 'em into lions. I did. But now it's all in God's hands. He's always been the only one able to change human nature from satanic to Godly.

But yes they are still hyenas. Hyenas always go after the weak and women are always perceived as the weaker sex by men even though I've said in the past I'm Army trained and a black belt in martial arts. They even acted like hyenas by accusing me of being crazy when most of the people I've seen post that they were on psychiatric medicines on 2+2 were atheists.

I'm so not weak they had to create a false weakness so they could attack me in a hyena pack.

gg atheists.

Splendour: 1, atheists: 0

so if the atheist "hyenas" here are running you off, how exactly do you win?

Big deal, I have a solid gold house and a rocket car.

Lions also go after the weak. In fact predators always tend to go after the weak.

I could care less about communism... I was just pointing out yet another wrong thing you said. All systems are not made by a mind contrary to what you posted.

Also - communism was not developed by atheists. You're confusing Marxism with communism. Communism was often developed though the church.
From Wikipedia
Jesus was a communist.

You're points are usually missed and likely wrong since you post in accurate or outright incorrect material all the time.

Jesus (the Lion of Judah) and the devil (goes around like a roaring lion) are both lions in the world.

Jesus said he came to draw a line in the sand so He came to give everyone a reality check. He confronts you and convicts you of sin before he bestows His kiss of peace.

You have to know your nature is sinful before God does anything about it.

They're not.

My priorities are shifting.

Happy holidays everyone. It is nice to see it being spent in such friendly fashion here in RGT.

Regarding Splendour, I mostly agree with Jibninjas' recent comments. However, I'll emphasize a couple points. As moderators, we are not responsible for the quality of the posting in this forum. If you think the quality has gone down, or if you have become frustrated with how some people post, that is between you and those people. We are not your parents; we are not here to resolve your conflicts. Rather, you are to be regarded as responsible adults able to manage your own affairs. Our job is to enforce the rules of the forum, so as I said last time this issue came up--if you think that one of Splendour's posts requires moderation, i.e. goes against the rules of the forum, then please report it so that we can directly address your concerns with that post. However, we will not ban someone simply because you think that poster is annoying or lowers the quality of the forum.

Of course, if everyone agreed, we could changes the rules of the RGT so that the moderators did have this kind of discretion. As both a poster and a moderator I think that would be a mistake, but if enough people wanted it then it could perhaps be done (Maybe we could enlist Rapini as co-moderator). However, I've not heard anyone seriously proposing this.

Now, just as a poster, like others I can get frustrated both with some of Splendour's posting and with those who reply to her. I am here because I enjoy friendly conversation with thoughtful people about religion, and I think this usually requires treating others with a level of respect that I think is mostly absent both from how Splendour deals with atheists and how most of the atheists here deal with her.

I'm also sympathetic to those who say that simply ignoring Splendour doesn't resolve the problem because so many others don't and so these silly conversations can end up dominating the forum. Here's an alternative suggestion. Make a rule for yourself that everytime you comment to Splendour or someone else about how they post rather than the content of what they're posting, you'll also make a separate post that has nothing to do with Splendour or that other poster and instead directly promotes the kind of forum that you want, i.e. a post that directly discusses some issue related to Religion, God, or Theology. That way, if nothing else, your own interaction with others on the forum will not be dominated by these Splendour-type conversations.

gskowal said in the RGT article thread:

Go open a real book and learn something, I'm tired of your nonsense and misrepresentation of political systems... you're so ignorant on the subject... after so many years of being here on RGT and most likely countless pointing out to you that atheism has nothing to do with political systems you keep vomiting the same nonsense time after time after time.... you should be ashamed of your trolling...

and by the way, this isn't thread for discussion so I hope that all these comments of mine and yours will be deleted by the mods.... - end quote

You're the one who is ignorant of political systems gskowal I have a degree in them and even took a class specifically on political revolutions.

Political systems come out of people's minds...They come from ideas and the idea for Marxism which is the precursor of communism came out of Marx's atheistic/satanistic head.

Marx said religion was the opiate of the masses. Ideas can be combined to arrive at solutions. You can never divide atheism from communism because the communists were much too virulent against all forms of religion and decided to eradicate religion at the outset showing atheism was a motivating factor in communist beliefs.

In fact, the communists acted like evil gods, holding the power of life and death and killing millions of people with the aim of eradicating religion. They even tried to superimpose a new type of religion in religion's place called "scientific atheism" but none of the scientists wanted to work on it. Not even when there were incentives for scientists to support scientific atheism. Read Froese's article. It is quite detailed.

You're seriously arguing that atheism and communism can't be mutually exclusive?

I think that, over the years, you've made a reasonable case that communism is atheistic (though the question of how much of communism was caused by the atheism of its founders is something of a moot point). For my part, the comparison is only objectionable when an argument crops up along the lines of "communists are wicked, therefore atheists are wicked". In my view, it's as silly as saying "some priests are wicked, therefore theism is morally bankrupt".

Just because communists are atheists doesn't imply that traits of communists are shared by atheists. It also doesn't imply that atheism causes communism, which seems an underlying assumption of yours. I'm basically "socially left and economically right" which is a pretty common atheist political stance (in my clearly biased circle of friends anyhow). To make the case that atheism leads to communism (or that atheists are responsible for the sins of communists, perhaps?) is going to take a fair bit of work. Pointing out that communists don't believe in god is no more effective as an argument than pointing out mysogynist preachers who do.

I think atheism could cause communism in some people but not necessarily all people.

There are various variables that can come into play depending on circumstances.

A lot of atheists who so vociferously object to atheism as part of communism most likely do so because they were raised in free Christianized societies.

The U.S.S.R. wasn't as free as the industrialized West today. Being a serf was little better than a slave and we can't easily relate to that living in the West a hundred years later.

Once again, Jesus was, according to many christian scholars, a communist. The Christian church has a history of endorsing and promoting communism. All communism is not the same and it has nothing to do with atheism.

I agree that the USSR was oppressive and I'm also aware that it's easy for us to be brave and uncompromising critics of societal injustice from the comfort of our wealthy, protected western lifestyles.

Nonetheless:

"I think atheism could cause communism in some people but not necessarily all people."

doesnt seem connected to any of the arguments you've made (although I appreciate the qualification). I dont see why not believing in God, or even believing there is no god would lead one to favor communism as a political/economic system.