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07-29-2010 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
I was just like you average atheist/skeptic before i found out God truly exists. The difference is i wasn't as ignorant as most of you guys to go around promoting atheism as a fact, when in fact, you don't know God doesn't exist for a fact, you just suppose. I definitely didn't go around making poker account names called burn bibles and i respected the beliefs of Christians even though i did not believe them myself to be true at the time. I know it may be harder since Christians can refrain from calling an atheist dumb or something after every post they make for some reason, i really don't see how that stops you from realizing how ignorant you are.

Regardless, i may be down for a well, if there are promises it won't turn into a flame fest.
I think we could probably keep it on track and keep the flaming to a minimum. Talking about what made you convert from am atheist to a catholic would be a great start
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08-05-2010 , 11:57 PM
This kid became a Christian last year (sophomore in college).
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Recently, I have come to better understand what it means to love God. Before I was a Christian, I do not think I ever did anything I did not want to do. Luckily, I was not born and raised a moral monster, so it wasn't too apparent. Even now as a Christian, it is not often that I do what I do not want to do. I am happy to give Janvier a ride home from school every break, and I do so because I enjoy it. I enjoy it partly for myself and partly because God's will is becoming mine. I'm only sort of loving God; I'd do it anyways if there was no God.
To love God is to do something that you simply do not desire to do, something that will indeed make you less happy. This is the work of Christ and this is the cure of the fall. Humanity failed to do this in its beginnings, and those occasions where we do now love God is the beginning of correction of the fall.
Thoughts on the bold? Seems odd to me.
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08-06-2010 , 12:31 AM
Gunth was never a 'true' atheist.
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08-06-2010 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jcmoussa
I think we could probably keep it on track and keep the flaming to a minimum. Talking about what made you convert from am atheist to a catholic would be a great start
Gunth doesn't believe catholics are christians.
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08-06-2010 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
Gunth was never a 'true' atheist.
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Exactly i was agnostic, just like how most of the "atheists" on this forum are.

I did not believe God existed. But the belief that He could exist was not totally absent. You guys can't have it both ways. If i was never a "true" atheist, neither are most of you.
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08-06-2010 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
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Exactly i was agnostic, just like how most of the "atheists" on this forum are.

I did not believe God existed. But the belief that He could exist was not totally absent. You guys can't have it both ways. If i was never a "true" atheist, neither are most of you.
How many times does it have to be explained to you. One can be an agnostic-atheist or an agnostic-theist. (a)theist is about belief or non-belief in a deity. (a)gnostic is about one's approach to what knowledge we might be able to have about such existence.

An agnostic is not someone who says they don't know whether or not there is a god. Plenty of atheists fit into that category.

But this has been explained to you several times IIRC. So tell me how its not trolling to just keep reverting to this statement you keep on making?
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08-06-2010 , 08:35 AM
Lol a gunth well would be epic. gogogogogogo
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08-07-2010 , 06:38 PM
I think that we should do some sort of contest. I always see these other forums doing contests. The price could be a custom under title.

What does everyone think? Any ideas on a competition that both atheists and theists could compete in?
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08-07-2010 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
I think that we should do some sort of contest. I always see these other forums doing contests. The price could be a custom under title.

What does everyone think? Any ideas on a competition that both atheists and theists could compete in?
How about a bad grammar and spelling contest.

Last edited by batair; 08-07-2010 at 09:32 PM. Reason: I think i can win taht one.
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08-07-2010 , 11:16 PM
Meh.contests are boring.my vote still goes for a gunth well.

Gunth,i will ship you $50 on ftp or stars if you do a well and take it seriously
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08-08-2010 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jcmoussa
Meh.contests are boring.my vote still goes for a gunth well.

Gunth,i will ship you $50 on ftp or stars if you do a well and take it seriously
Deal. Can do it this week.
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08-10-2010 , 06:53 PM
recently watched the trials of ted haggard. interesting quote said by him, imo.



haggard: "churches are not just spiritual bodies, they are corporations and businesses."

interviewer: "and you are bad for business

haggard: "well, i think if they would of been chess players instead of checker players they would of realized that I am their business. somebody struggling with sin is the purpose of churches on earth, the churches on earth are there to help people with their sin problems."
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08-10-2010 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
Deal. Can do it this week.
eh, not surprised that a religious person is accepting a money offer to seemingly talk about his faith.
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08-10-2010 , 07:13 PM
also greydon square just released a new album today

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08-10-2010 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Conspire
eh, not surprised that a religious person is accepting a money offer to seemingly talk about his faith.
Actually i have turned down bets regarding my faith many times, even when i am 100% sure i can prove the other wrong. I won't put money on my faith like that. I will however accept money for answering questions, especially since a large % of these questions will probably be outside of my beliefs in God.

You must be an atheist...
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08-10-2010 , 07:20 PM
turn down the 50 and do it for free
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08-10-2010 , 07:27 PM
or at least donate the monies to a starving child...
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08-10-2010 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Conspire
turn down the 50 and do it for free
Or i can just turn down answering questions to a bunch of people who spend a nice % of their time hating on me.
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08-10-2010 , 07:32 PM
seriously, why do so many on this site choose to be douche so often for no reason.
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08-10-2010 , 07:34 PM
i dont understand, are you trying to justify why you should get the 50 dollars now?
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08-10-2010 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Conspire
i dont understand, are you trying to justify why you should get the 50 dollars now?
What? It was offered, i didn't ask for it.
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08-10-2010 , 07:44 PM
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08-10-2010 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
seriously, why do so many on this site choose to be douche so often for no reason.
Probably a remnant of our christian upbringing.
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08-10-2010 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MelchyBeau
Probably a remnant of our christian upbringing.
I had a Christian upbringing, and I am a ****ing peach!
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08-10-2010 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jibninjas
seriously, why do so many on this site choose to be douche so often for no reason.
welcome to the internet?
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