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06-05-2013 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
We are clearly more mature about sex in the UK. People aged under 25 have half of the sex.
What does that even mean? Link?

People under 25 in the UK have sex half as often as those over 25?
People under 25 in the UK have sex half as often when compared to people under 25 outside the UK?
People under 25 have half of all the sex that happens in the UK?
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06-05-2013 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BeaucoupFish
Link?

People under 25 have half of all the sex that happens in the UK?
It was quoted by the expert on sexual diseases on "Newsnight" a couple of nights ago.



"When I was a babe, as a babe I was speaking, as a babe I was thinking, as a babe I was reasoning, and when I have become a man, I have made useless the things of the babe"

Corinthians 13:11
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06-05-2013 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
It was quoted by the expert on sexual diseases on "Newsnight" a couple of nights ago.



"When I was a babe, as a babe I was speaking, as a babe I was thinking, as a babe I was reasoning, and when I have become a man, I have made useless the things of the babe"

Corinthians 13:11
No idea what your scriptural quote has to do with the topic at hand, but in any case there is nothing surprising at this statistic, from multiple angles that have nothing to do with morality e.g. young people have better health, a high libido, less distractions / responsibilities from family or work, go out more frequently - and I just wouldn't expect many twenty-somethings to say they're too tired / have a headache!
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06-05-2013 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
It was quoted by the expert on sexual diseases on "Newsnight" a couple of nights ago.
Link?
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06-05-2013 , 09:27 PM
As a member of the over 25 cohort, it is now my wife and I*'s mission to singlehandedly correct this egregious statistic.



*correction, just me. As of this typing it is not going so well.
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06-05-2013 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
As a member of the over 25 cohort, it is now my wife and I*'s mission to singlehandedly correct this egregious statistic.



*correction, just me. As of this typing it is not going so well.
You're singlehandedly proving cwoc's statistic!
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06-06-2013 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
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It's on the BBC iplayer "Newsnight" 4th June. I haven't linked to it because it is restricted to the UK.
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06-06-2013 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
It's on the BBC iplayer "Newsnight" 4th June. I haven't linked to it because it is restricted to the UK.
Name of the expert? Transcript? Something that could be used to locate the original study?
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06-06-2013 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
Name of the expert? Transcript? Something that could be used to locate the original study?

"Powers [Lisa Power, policy director for the Terrence Higgins Trust] believes that the reason for the increase in that specific age group is because the 15-25 year old generation is "having over half the amount of sex"."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3388161.html
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06-06-2013 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
"Powers [Lisa Power, policy director for the Terrence Higgins Trust] believes that the reason for the increase in that specific age group is because the 15-25 year old generation is "having over half the amount of sex"."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...n_3388161.html
cwoc, you are useless.

Link to actual study (as opposed to an unrelated person who is simply commenting on the study): Sexually transmitted infections and chlamydia screening in England, 2012 (Public Health England)

See also: Sexually Transmitted Infections Annual Data (Public Health England)
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06-06-2013 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BeaucoupFish
cwoc, you are useless.

Link to actual study....
I provided the source that was asked for. This forum is full of ill-mannered posters. We could do with some decent modding.
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06-06-2013 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
I provided the source that was asked for.
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
Name of the expert? Transcript? Something that could be used to locate the original study?
Is Lisa Power the person who was the expert on the clip that you didn't link?

You certainly did not provide a transcript and the link really wasn't helpful in finding the link to the study.

And upon inspection, the information that was found does not support the claim. I saw no reference to total amount of sexual activity (though I admit I skimmed it and could have missed it if it's there -- this is your opportunity to prove me wrong).
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06-06-2013 , 11:58 PM
Stop being so rude. If he said it was in there it was in there.
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06-07-2013 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
You certainly did not provide a transcript and the link really wasn't helpful in finding the link to the study.

And upon inspection, the information that was found does not support the claim. I saw no reference to total amount of sexual activity (though I admit I skimmed it and could have missed it if it's there -- this is your opportunity to prove me wrong)
Why does the origin of her claim have to be this study about something different which someone has dug up ? You have been given a professional source why isn't that good enough for you ?
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06-07-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
Why does the origin of her claim have to be this study about something different which someone has dug up ?
Because the content of the claim is being challenged, and so that is the statement that needs to be supported. As far as this specific challenge goes, I could not care less about unrelated claims.

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You have been given a professional source why isn't that good enough for you ?
I don't believe that a policy director counts as a "professional source" when it comes to empirical claims. Policy directors receive their information from external sources. The quality of the information presented by a policy director is subject to the quality of the external source. Not all external sources used by policy centers are of good quality.
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06-07-2013 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
Because the content of the claim is being challenged, and so that is the statement that needs to be supported. As far as this specific challenge goes, I could not care less about unrelated claims.



I don't believe that a policy director counts as a "professional source" when it comes to empirical claims. Policy directors receive their information from external sources. The quality of the information presented by a policy director is subject to the quality of the external source. Not all external sources used by policy centers are of good quality.
"Lisa has spoken at, and presented research to, many international and national bodies and conferences."

http://www.tht.org.uk/our-charity/Ab...ple/Lisa-Power


Sorry I'm taking her over you. Perhaps you'd like to bicker over it with her personally instead.
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06-07-2013 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
"Lisa has spoken at, and presented research to, many international and national bodies and conferences."

http://www.tht.org.uk/our-charity/Ab...ple/Lisa-Power
What was it that you thought policy directors do?

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Sorry I'm taking her over you. Perhaps you'd like to bicker over it with her personally instead.
Given that I've offered no claim, this doesn't even make sense. I've only questioned the origins of her claim. And if she were here, I'd be asking her about it, too.
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06-07-2013 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
What was it that you thought policy directors do?



Given that I've offered no claim, this doesn't even make sense. I've only questioned the origins of her claim. And if she were here, I'd be asking her about it, too.
This is what she's done or maybe you think that's a lie on the website !

You challenge her statement. Well challenge her ! There's contact info on the website.
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06-07-2013 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
This is what she's done or maybe you think that's a lie on the website !
You clearly understood the sentence I wrote.

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You challenge her statement. Well challenge her ! There's contact info on the website.
Maybe you really don't know what policy directors do. They usually don't answer random inquiries from the internet regarding specific claims that they've made. That would open them up for a world of problems that do not effectively serve their end goals. Sometimes they don't even respond to legitimate journalists who inquire about some of their statements.
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06-07-2013 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BeaucoupFish
cwoc, you are useless.
cwoc, it was a bit rude of me to make a post about how useless you are.
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06-08-2013 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
You clearly understood the sentence I wrote.
I just quoted her work experience directly from the site. What's your problem with that ?!?!


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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
Maybe you really don't know what policy directors do. They usually don't answer random inquiries from the internet regarding specific claims that they've made. That would open them up for a world of problems that do not effectively serve their end goals. Sometimes they don't even respond to legitimate journalists who inquire about some of their statements.
She has a team you can contact. If you want more evidence of her claim take it up with them.
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