I have a friend who is battling addiction..drugs, alcohol, sex. This causes me a lot of stress.

Will you please say a prayer for me and her?

Prayed for your stress and guidance on how to help your friend. Prayed also for your friend to have the strength and perseverance to fight and overcome her addictions.

Thank you

I think this is being far too generous. What's the difference between this and saying that people who prayed to Zeus were also praying to the same god as Muslims but just differed in their understanding of the nature of god? 'There could be a god whose nature is not known to anyone and therefore everyone is actually praying to it' is not a suggestion that holds any weight for me because it's no more meaningful than me claiming that no one who prays is being listened to because there are no gods at all. As a way of resolving the 'praying to the wrong god' problem, don't you think it's weak? Virtually special pleading?

Isn't what matters, in practical terms, is that those doing the praying, for the most part, think that their gods are different?

Yes, what matters practically is what those doing the praying think, for instance:

Obviously there are theological disagreements here, but they can be thought of as disagreements about the nature of the same thing, not positing the existence of a separate, different thing.

Two men were walking in the park and saw a man in the distance.

The first man says, "I think that's Joe. JOE! HEY! JOE! OVER HERE! Joe used to work with me until he changed jobs. JOE! JOOOOOOOE!"

The second man says, "No, that's not Joe. That's Bob. BOB! CAN YOU HEAR ME? Bob is friends with my sister and we've hung out a few times. HEEEEEEEY BOB!"

Both people have absolutely different conceptions of the man in the distance. And even though their mental pictures are different, they are talking to the same man.

Note: The word picture intentionally leaves the man's identity completely undefined. It could be Bob, it could be Joe, or it could be someone else entirely. Maybe it's not even a man. It could be a rumpled jacket that someone left on the park bench. It doesn't matter. It also does not say whether the man responds. All it says is that what they claim about the identity of the one they're trying to talk to is irrelevant when it comes to the question of whether they are calling out to the same person.

Could OP say a prayer for me cos I'm trying out a medicine and it's prolly the last chance there is for me to get healthy?

I'm not Dr. Meh, but I wish you all the best, good luck and most of all that you get healthy again.

Thanks! I'll find out in a couple of months if the medicine works or not.

Gruncing, so you may be thinking about this on a much deeper level, but Zeus didn't reveal himself to the prophet Abraham.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in...amic_religions

"Islam teaches that God is the same god worshipped by the members of other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Judaism (29:46).[18] This is not universally accepted by non-Muslims, as Islam denies the divinity of Jesus Christ as a son of God, Islam views that God does not have any offsprings or descendants, he created all things including prophets such as Jesus Christ. Most Muslims today believe that the religion of Abraham (which now split into Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are of one source, which is The Almighty God."

I prayed for you to have comfort and peace as you go through a difficult time and for the medicine to work if it's His will. I also prayed that you find the Lord if you haven't already.

Please keep us updated on how you're doing.

i wanna say a prayer of gratitude

Dear lord thanks for all the little girls that are gonna get rapped tonight.
I know you will not do anything at all.
Even though you have the power to do so.
I know u knew who was going to be a rapist before u let them be born.
I know that all the raping is part of your divine and perfect plan lord.
I just can't see it because my finite mind cannot grasp your infinite wisdom, that includes the raping of little girls all day everyday.

Thank u lord

amen

omg lol!

I'll talk to myself you. I'm not perfect, I'm indoctrinated. I won't respond to trolls or engage in this becoming a debate thread. If you feel too intimidated to post here, feel free to pm me so i can talk to myself.

imaginary friend bless!

hahah glgl

One thing I miss about being a Christian is being able to tell people I'm praying for them. My one-year nephew had a biopsy for a lump in his spine last week, and what I wanted to say to my (Christian) sister in her own language is that I am praying for her and her son. But secular atheism doesn't really have a great way of saying that. I think saying this is a way of expressing comfort and affirming a moral order to the universe, both of which I want to do. "I'm thinking of you" is the nearest equivalent I could think of, but it seems inadequate.

Something like "I'm hoping for the best for you", although that's not as personal I guess.

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Dr. meh please pray for Floyd Mayweather to win the fight tonight. So i can make some easy easy money.
Thanks.

glgl

There has been a prayer thread before: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...s-here-571223/

It was even declared a safe space by a then mod.

I'd love it if someone prayed for me and my desire to worship God. I 100% believe, but for some reason have a hard time finding the desire to worship.

Hey Preki! Its great that you believe and want to worship! Our God is so loving and merciful that He sent his Son Jesus to die for us. God's wrath abides on us for our sin and because He poured His wrath out on His Son so we wouldn't have to spend an eternity in Hell, we receive Christ's perfect righteousness. If you truly have repented of your sin and are believing in Christ, He will continue regenerating your heart to have greater affections towards Him. I pray this encourages you! Check out John MacArthur at gty.org for the best Bible exposition of our day and to help guide you in your faith. Praying for you!

Your brother in Christ,

Kevin

+1

I'll be praying for Preki, too!

lol! guys come on!
sky daddy has a plan and you are asking him to change it? It's all his will remember?

you guys are just talking to yourself = doing nothing.


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Hi, ARCANGEL0. Thank you for sharing.

You've raised some pretty important points in your recent posts.

Having said that, I don't think that this is the appropriate thread to make those points. This thread is for prayer requests.

If you start another thread on the efficacy (or lack thereof) of prayer, I'll be delighted to dialogue with you.

Have a blessed day!

P.S. And I'll be praying for you!

yeah keep talking to yourselves guys. Oh yeah pray to me and/or pray to your god you will see we have the same success rate. Do the experiment. Prove it to yourself.

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Thank you again for sharing your thoughts, but I think it would be more courteous to respect the purpose of this particular thread, and start a new thread where we can discuss the efficacy of prayer.

I won't respond to you again in this thread, but I look forward to a thought-provoking dialogue with you if you choose to start a new thread. Thanks.

edit: It is of course the Moderator's decision as to whether or not this is the appropriate thread to discuss the efficacy of prayer.