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Immoral to be friends with a Christian? Immoral to be friends with a Christian?

12-28-2012 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by duffee
It's not that. It's that you don't realize how ridiculous it sounds to punish someone for 15% of eternity just for smoking pot. At worst, I’d say no more than 5% of forever.
In addition he did coke. He has since admitted to using and abusing women for sex as well. It may be in the genes in which case the rest of his family will also have to be punished. Anyway I'm out of here. The company in this forum is a bit dodgy.
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12-28-2012 , 07:14 PM
I vote Cwoc as either the best troll ever or the most entertaining poster on this board. Even my family may now have to suffer damnation for my actions.

And yes I abused that poor prostitute so much she even called me a week later to give me one on the house.

I don't want to resort to name calling but if he isn't a troll then Cwoc is one serious nutjob. A supposed atheist / judge with a punisher complex ?

I really hope you don't have easy access to firearms , for humanity's sake.
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12-28-2012 , 07:41 PM
Cwocwoc is just a troll. And he's from the UK, so no guns.
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12-28-2012 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mugenjin
I vote Cwoc as either the best troll ever or the most entertaining poster on this board. Even my family may now have to suffer damnation for my actions.

And yes I abused that poor prostitute so much she even called me a week later to give me one on the house.

I don't want to resort to name calling but if he isn't a troll then Cwoc is one serious nutjob. A supposed atheist / judge with a punisher complex ?

I really hope you don't have easy access to firearms , for humanity's sake.
i never heard or read someone saying if i was god i would give x percentage points of eternal punishment.

whether he is serious or not it is a hilarious concept. if he gives that high a percentage for getting high just be thankful he is not a mod.
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12-28-2012 , 10:22 PM
You should be friends with anyone and everyone, because the net gain of learning you will extract from these people - who have completely different life experiences to you - far outweighs the loss that may be perceived as 'support for immoral behaviour'. You attribute too much importance to morality, in comparison to learning and self-development, because you're arguments stem from a viewpoint of objective morality and inflexible moral conviction.

It also appears that you do not have a deterministic or scientific view of human behaviour, but rather a philosophical view that's based on the existence of free will and the subsequent assignment of blame for people's decisions. The only blame that should be assigned is not on the individuals who believe these things - who are just the symptom of the problem - but on the environmental conditions that cultivate such decisions and behaviours.

Last edited by VeeDDzz`; 12-28-2012 at 10:29 PM.
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12-29-2012 , 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ganstaman
Cwocwoc is just a troll. And he's from the UK, so no guns.
No offence but you are not clever enough to understand what I post. I have raised important theological issues here but it's all whizzed completely over your head.

Sometimes it's difficult to accept the advice of the pointy-eared one.

"listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story"
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12-29-2012 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
I'll leave you to your bitch slapping.

"Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit."

Leonard Nimoy "Spock Thoughts"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilFzLb9D2fQ
You guys heard it here first. Everyone ignore Cwocwoc since he is loud and aggressive.


Not to mention disrespectful to the religious people itt and Jesus teachings of turning the other cheek. Though that might be appropriate considering the nature of the thread. Maybe he is trying to make the point of not being friends to religious bitches like LEMONZEST, ganstaman and Jesus. At least he does it in a respectful way unlike the rest of the heathens.

Last edited by batair; 12-29-2012 at 04:45 AM.
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12-29-2012 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Jesus teachings of turning the other cheek.
Jesus taught courage not wimping out and accepting bad stuff from heathens. If he had wimped out there wouldn't be a religion ! In the modern context this means that if you see people doing wrong then you should speak out.

"While you live, tell the truth and shame the Devil." Hugh Latimer
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12-29-2012 , 05:08 AM
Jesus taught turning the other cheek. Which you consider, if followed, getting bitch slapped. Pretty simple.


Ill take Spock's advice now. Gl with your trolling.
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12-29-2012 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Jesus taught turning the other cheek. Which you consider, if followed, getting bitch slapped. Pretty simple.


Ill take Spock's advice now. Gl with your trolling.
You lack the courage even to discuss speaking out for fear of offending the sinners and heathens on here. Carry on wimping there's safety in numbers batair.
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12-29-2012 , 05:38 AM
I think you are confused. I am a sinner and heathen. Oh and i speak out all the time against theists and atheists. To much really, im trying to cut down.

Last edited by batair; 12-29-2012 at 05:42 AM. Reason: Starting now....
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12-29-2012 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
I am a sinner and heathen.
That's nothing to be proud of that displays weakness. You should be ashamed of your faults.


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Oh and i speak out all the time against theists and atheists.
Now you are confused. That's everybody !
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12-29-2012 , 04:46 PM
The only way I can respond to OP's question .. I have no idea about Christians , but I'd say it's immoral to be friends with Cwocwoc.

Ok , maybe not immoral but probably very weird and very boring not to mention dangerous when he finally goes totally off the deep end.

He probably qualifies a lot more for the "freak and very weird dude" title than Gobbo ever did.
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12-30-2012 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mugenjin
The only way I can respond to OP's question .. I have no idea about Christians , but I'd say it's immoral to be friends with Cwocwoc.
To your perverse mind you as a drug taking user of prostitutes are moral whereas those that see these things as very wrong are immoral. Morality aside I would not go anywhere near anybody who might be in possession of illegal class A drugs such as cocaine.
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12-30-2012 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
Morality aside I would not go anywhere near anybody who might be in possession of illegal class A drugs such as cocaine.
why?
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12-30-2012 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
why?
Anyone with such a high disregard for the law is bad company who could easily get you into trouble.
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12-30-2012 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc
To your perverse mind you as a drug taking user of prostitutes are moral whereas those that see these things as very wrong are immoral. Morality aside I would not go anywhere near anybody who might be in possession of illegal class A drugs such as cocaine.
Funny to hear you call others perverse. I think your absolutist view of morality is fairly perverse.

I base my morality on how my actions negatively affect others. It isn't based on rules written in some book 2000 years ago or by laws implemented by politicians who to be honest are not as concerned with morality as they like to make you believe.

If you think that disobeying a law makes you an immoral person then you've probably lived a fairly sheltered existence. In fact almost everything you say makes me believe you really haven't spent much time in the real world.
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12-30-2012 , 04:25 PM
Out of curiosity , just to see how your brain works Cwoc. Do the same people in Amterdam partaking in the legal consumption of marijuana merit damnation or are immoral compared to those doing the same thing in a country where it is illegal to possess it ?

Do your damnation %'s take into account cultural and legal differences ?

Since you seem to equate laws with morality I wonder how your mind will attempt to resolve this with your frankly warped sense of what is immoral and what isn't.

Last edited by mugenjin; 12-30-2012 at 04:30 PM.
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12-31-2012 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
It's not our job to belittle people because they don't believe in Christ.
The point I was making is that the gospel is offensive to the natural man. I think I can produce Scriptural evidence for that if you are genuinely uncertain about it. And I'm not talking about being obnoxious according to behavior, etc., but the MESSAGE is offensive.
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12-31-2012 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReady
The point I was making is that the gospel is offensive to the natural man. I think I can produce Scriptural evidence for that if you are genuinely uncertain about it. And I'm not talking about being obnoxious according to behavior, etc., but the MESSAGE is offensive.
I think you could use Scripture to back up either method. In some cases, the correct Christian witness might be offensive. In other cases, appeasement might be correct.
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12-31-2012 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NotReady
The point I was making is that the gospel is offensive to the natural man. I think I can produce Scriptural evidence for that if you are genuinely uncertain about it. And I'm not talking about being obnoxious according to behavior, etc., but the MESSAGE is offensive.
I would like scriptural evidence.
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12-31-2012 , 11:29 PM
I've gotta say, I don't find it offensive. I just find it irrelevant and unbelievable.
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12-31-2012 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
I've gotta say, I don't find it offensive. I just find it irrelevant and unbelievable.
You're an unrepentant sinner and haven't done anything truly good in life.

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A scriptural reference is 1 Cor 1:18-19 (NASB):

18For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written,

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And the cleverness of the clever I will set aside.”
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01-01-2013 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hector Cerif
I would like scriptural evidence.
Isaiah 53:3

3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him

Matthew 11:6
6 And blessed is he who does not take offense at Me.”


Romans 9:33
just as it is written, “ BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”
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01-01-2013 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NotReady
The point I was making is that the gospel is offensive to the natural man. I think I can produce Scriptural evidence for that if you are genuinely uncertain about it. And I'm not talking about being obnoxious according to behavior, etc., but the MESSAGE is offensive.
What is a "natural man" ? The message is don't live a bad life. What's your problem with that ? I am an atheist but even I think we should name and shame people who live bad lives.
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