Immoral to be friends with a Christian? - Page 8 - Religion, God, and Theology

This is your problem Lemonzest. You call yourself a Christian yet you support those who attack Christian values like not getting drunk, not abusing drugs. not whoring, not gambling etc etc. If you thought straight you would appreciate that your God would not look unkindly on those who try to educate sinners.

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01-11-2013 , 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

As opposed to supporting those who defy chrstian values by gambling and rambling on in a hypocritical manner.

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01-11-2013 , 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cwocwoc

I like seeing people being called out for being hypocritical.

You call yourself a Christian yet you support those who attack Christian values like not getting drunk, not abusing drugs. not whoring, not gambling etc etc

I don't think this is true

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01-11-2013 , 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LEMONZEST

So in your religious view posting in a thread is worse than abusing drugs or alcohol or women for sex etc etc etc. What a strange "Christian" you are.

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01-11-2013 , 02:30 PM

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For the record: the only thing I abuse is punctuation.

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01-11-2013 , 02:35 PM

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So in your religious view posting in a thread is worse than abusing drugs or alcohol or women for sex etc etc etc. What a strange "Christian" you are.

James 2:10
10- For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

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01-11-2013 , 03:28 PM

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So in your religious view posting in a thread is worse than abusing drugs or alcohol or women for sex etc etc etc. What a strange "Christian" you are.

I didn't say this.
I don't think this.

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01-11-2013 , 04:25 PM

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Hector Cerif

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Originally Posted by NotReady

The point I was making is that the gospel is offensive to the natural man. I think I can produce Scriptural evidence for that if you are genuinely uncertain about it. And I'm not talking about being obnoxious according to behavior, etc., but the MESSAGE is offensive.

God:

"Here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to make these creatures with an ingrained sense of morality and reason, and then if they use either of these things I'm going to torture them for all eternity."

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You really don't see how evil that is? How baleful that meme is to humanity?

I think you do, deep down.

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01-11-2013 , 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hector Cerif

Technically, not accurate; but even so, if all human beings ( besides the Messiah ) are "evil", what can "G-d" do to protect those beings that are not "evil"? Then, the question becomes what is meant by "evil". Also, NotReady started a thread ( "Hell" ) referencing Boyd's talk on an alternative view of hell - annihilationism - which does not imply "torture for all eternity".

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01-11-2013 , 08:50 PM

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Non sequitur.

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01-13-2013 , 04:53 PM

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Dominic

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What the hell does "you shouldn't get off your nut" mean?? I'm so confused. Is it jerking off?

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01-13-2013 , 05:33 PM

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What the hell does "you shouldn't get off your nut" mean?? I'm so confused. Is it jerking off?

Shouldn't get high/drunk/etc.

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01-13-2013 , 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

Shouldn't get high.

so smoking weed? Doing any drugs? What about nicotine or alcohol? What about sugar or other natural food highs? How about exercise and getting an endorphin rush?

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01-13-2013 , 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic

so smoking weed? Doing any drugs? What about nicotine or alcohol? What about sugar or other natural food highs? How about exercise and getting an endorphin rush?

Not sure. You'll have to ask the world's foremost moral expert and arbiter of all moral dilemmas: Cwocwoc. If you're unable to contact his holiness, he has gifted us with a message to follow:

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[Morals] are self-evident (ask your spirit) and it's taught to children all over the world. You can't get much more universal than that.

Unfortunately his holiness has not given us a way to determine the 'right' answer from our spirit and a possibly 'wrong' answer that we've tricked ourselves into thinking our spirit has given us. Maybe one day he'll grace us with an answer. One day.

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01-13-2013 , 05:50 PM

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fretelöo

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I thought the self-evident one is the one given by your spirit? That's why I have taken to exclusively jerking off when out jogging while stoned lately .

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01-13-2013 , 05:53 PM

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I thought the self-evident one is the one by your spirit? That's why I lately have taken to exclusively jerking off when out jogging while stoned.

It is the one brought forth by your spirit. Unfortunately, there are many a demon (maybe, dunno) and worldly influence that might cloud your judgement and make you think you're getting an answer from your spirit when you're really getting an answer from an impostor. Be not deceived!

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01-13-2013 , 06:50 PM

#192

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Originally Posted by asdfasdf32

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Evidently, being stoned is of the essence as it insures continued interest in doing something as exhausting and unfun as that.

And thus closeth the hermeneutic circle.

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01-16-2013 , 04:24 PM

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Hector Cerif

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Originally Posted by VeeDDzz`

You attribute too much importance to morality, in comparison to learning and self-development, because you're arguments stem from a viewpoint of objective morality and inflexible moral conviction.

It also appears that you do not have a deterministic or scientific view of human behaviour, but rather a philosophical view that's based on the existence of free will and the subsequent assignment of blame for people's decisions. The only blame that should be assigned is not on the individuals who believe these things - who are just the symptom of the problem - but on the environmental conditions that cultivate such decisions and behaviours.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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