Oh, I didn't even know I could do that.

Well, I still can't believe this reached 75 posts. How can a troll disappear when he's getting so much attention? But I guess you guys love trolling trolls (perhaps).

Whenever I see the bolded example I instantly discredit and stop reading.

And there we go boys and girls! pletho has blown us away with his undeniable proof of God and why the bible is undoubtedly the word of GOD!!!

Lets all repent and runt o the nearest church ASAP!!!

That doesn't really compute? Sounds a little coward-ish?

Well another thing you have to consider Dom is that Abraham is considered a father of faith.

Not just a physical promise was given to Abraham by God but a spiritual promise was given to him as well.

Jesus Christ came out of the line of Judah which is traceable back to Abraham and through Jesus Christ God has many spiritual children.

Even the divine right of kings is traceable back to him and David of the Old Testament.

So do you believe in the "Divine Right Of Kings" today? Lots of very decent Christian folks used to hold that belief back in the day. Also "Papal Infallibilty" ?? Again lots of very serious and honest Christians hold to this! Just askin!!

It does?

Why?

I think we're still in the middle of a creative work by God.

Colossians 1 (NIV)

The Supremacy of the Son of God

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[g] your evil behavior. 22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— 23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+1&version=NIV

God will accomplish his purpose (work):

Romans 5:

10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

Philippians 1:

3 I thank my God every time I remember you. 4 In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy 5 because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, 6 being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Philippians 2:

12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
14 Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15 so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.”[c] Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky 16 as you hold firmly to the word of life. And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain. 17 But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you. 18 So you too should be glad and rejoice with me.

Psalm 136: God's love never fails.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...36&version=CEV

Your right, there are only logical refutations of half assed logical arguments put forth by people trying to prove an archaic book written by semi educated men in the first couple centuries, is the unaltered word of god.

The burden of proof lays upon you! Prove to us that the bible IS the word of god, without using scripture. Want to know what you have to use to prove your point, just like everyone else in the academic community? The Scientific Method!

Your hypothesis is that the bible was written by god, go out and find us all solid evidence, have that evidence be accepted by the scientific community, peer reviewed and published.

If you can't do that or find material that is peer reviewed and published that proves your point, simply admit that the only thing you have proving the book is the word of god, is faith.

And the reason they call it faith? Because it's not knowledge - Hitch

Hitchens was a drunk who never got regenerated in this world.

That ought to be proof enough of the problem with not getting spiritually regenerated.

Do you always take advice from people who lack self control?

Can you learn self control from someone who doesn't have it?

God killed a village including women and children when he didn't have to. I'll take hitchen's libations over god's genocide as an example of lack of self control.

You're not God and you've got no business judging Him negatively.

When you can do what God does then you can judge him not before.

Read the book of Job. That's pretty close to what God told Job.

God can go **** himself. See I judged him. How am I not supposed to? How am I supposed to judge him awesome warm and fuzzy if I can't also judge him to be a heinous lunatic that even if he did exist should be overthrown. Sorry no cake and eating it too.

another classic variation of "you don't believe in the bible? let me find you a passage from the bible that will change your mind!"

the character of god as portrayed in the bible can and will be judged by thinking individuals, especially in cases where he and those acting on his behalf commit terrible crimes against humanity.

Do you always dodge the main content of a post and go off on an insignificant tangent?

I don't need Hitchens to tell me faith isn't knowledge, anyone with common sense knows this.

"Thinking individuals".

Relative to God thinking individuals are 2 year olds.

Do you think a 2 year old is in any position to judge the actions of his Grandpa and a human relationship to God is actually even a greater gap than a 2 year old's to his Grandpa.

We can only know what Grandpa says. We can't know everything Grandpa knows.