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Old 06-13-2012, 05:56 PM   #16
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Re: Ideological Turing Test

Not sure who is being leveled ITT
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:02 PM   #17
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Of belief. I don't consider you a Christian from what I've read and you're only a theist in what I think is the weakest sense. Similar to old bunny. What I meant was you could play a good atheist given a gimmick. I think the strictly Christian side here probably loses this game to the atheists. But theists versus atheists then maybe they have a chance.

On that site the Christians won, which was interesting. They were able to fool atheists into thinking they were the opposite, and were able to be picked by other Christians more often. I found it interesting because I thought for sure the Christians wouldn't be able to do this.
First, telling me what I am is a little insulting. I am not going to argue about what I am because I do not acknowledge that you have any right to pass judgement on my faith. I may be rude occasionally on this site, but I have never presumed to tell people what they believe.

On the second point, I think the "pseudo Turing test" result is likely to always be random. The bulk of the arguments for or against theism are really not that profound. Also, even granting the existence of an IQ advantage for atheists on the whole, the difference is just a few points, only a fraction of a standard deviation. In any given interaction, a poor quality argument could be coming from a bright person or a dim person of either camp and there would be no way to distinguish.

Look at Evilsteve on this thread. He is completely botching the utility of Occam's Razor and he has always been on the atheist side of the argument. How would you know this was not a theist screwing up an atheist argument?
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:03 PM   #18
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I'm an atheist. And you're making us look bad.
Oh so if atheists "look bad" that means god exists? Nice logic fail there, reverse appeal to authority ftw!
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:04 PM   #19
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I'm an atheist. And you're making us look bad.
Perhaps he is trying to pretend to be a theist botching the atheist arguments. Cute, but of course it really does not achieve that because we know he is an atheist. So indeed, you might think he is making your side look bad.

On the bright side, I at least do not judge "sides" by the posts of individuals. I only judge the individuals making the post.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:06 PM   #20
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Thread needs gimmick accounts to be done right imo.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:13 PM   #21
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Oh so if atheists "look bad" that means god exists? Nice logic fail there, reverse appeal to authority ftw!
Quit putting words in my mouth; I never said any such thing.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #22
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Thread needs gimmick accounts to be done right imo.
Lol, you just figure that out?
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:21 PM   #23
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Haven't posted in RGT much recently so I thought I might slip under the radar.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:28 PM   #24
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Re: Ideological Turing Test

I'd not seen you before, but like most satirists, you couldn't help go a bit too far and give the game away
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I'd not seen you before, but like most satirists, you couldn't help go a bit too far and give the game away
A reasonable point, except that I have seen atheists make that same essential claim in non-gimmick discussions. At least there was no reason to believe that they were gimmicks.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:31 PM   #26
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I'd not seen you before, but like most satirists, you couldn't help go a bit too far and give the game away
Thanks for your feedback. Hopefully I can use this as a learning experience and I'll do better next time.
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:37 PM   #27
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:38 PM   #28
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Haven't posted in RGT much recently so I thought I might slip under the radar.
Lol. Now I am insulted, if you actually thought my memory was that short. I realize I am older than most of you, but the Alzheimer's has not kicked in yet.
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THERE IS NO GOD!
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Job 21:22
“Can anyone teach knowledge to God, since he judges even the highest?

DNA
The Cosmic Serpent
JFK
The Encrypted Word of God
The Universal Message
Have We Found The Real Foreskin?

http://www.tektonics.org/guest/fallacies.html

Anyway, I am busy for the next few days so I won't be continuing this discussion for a while.
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Show me the fabricated scriptures where it says Jehovah can't be taught so I can debunk them. I am very good at exposing fabrications in the Bible, in case you haven't figured that out by now. I don't think you are really busy. You are just running away before I have a chance to debunk your theory (not fact).

BTW: I don't do links. If you wish to make a statement, summarize it and be done with it.
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