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Old 01-12-2012, 04:11 PM   #226
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Your argument is invalid because it works the other way around. I was a former theist and know I realise I was lying to myself .
I'm not talking about theism or atheism, I'm talking about faith. Theism or atheism as an umbrella term is really irrelevant to what I'm talking about. One can say I believe there is a god, but that is irrelevant. There is only one true God to believe in, and that will be life changing. All other "gods" are just diversions from the one true God, by the work of Satan. Being a general theist isn't going to change anything that is relevant to the true God, and by that I mean one's sinful nature.

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Old 01-12-2012, 04:14 PM   #227
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You dont get it, so was he!
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:33 PM   #228
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Who said anything about evil atheists (of course we have no love and our hearts are closed). Try some of the higher hanging fruit. Like the OP who perverts the NT with the Gospel of Thomas. Is he less loving?
Pervert the New Testament with the Gospel of Thomas?

My head feels a little bit like spaghetti right now because of a conversation I was having with someone at the library when I was out, and because of some things that happened on the way back, so can you please explain to me how I am perverting anything? I would appreciate it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:35 PM   #229
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I didn't insult anyone. Christianity is about love. Atheism clearly isn't. Judaism and Islamism not as much. I say not as much because one doesn't have the new testament and the other perverts it.
I was talking to two Muslims at the library today and they seemed very loving. I'm going to go back the next time they are there and maybe visit their Mosque to learn more about what they believe.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:37 PM   #230
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Sample size?
It's possible, but as far as I can tell there are only two types of love. Genuine love and love that is forced out of fear or insecurity.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:40 PM   #231
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Christians feel and show more love than non Christians.
They also show more hate than non-Christians.

I can't believe some of you are suggesting that Christians love others more than non-Christians. You couldn't possibly know that. You can't look into someone's mind and measure love. You guys are being ridiculous.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #232
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I can't believe some of you are suggesting that Christians love others more than non-Christians. You couldn't possibly know that. You can't look into someone's mind and measure love. You guys are being ridiculous.
You can measure someone's love based on their actions and responses to you.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:00 PM   #233
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:03 PM   #234
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:06 PM   #235
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You can measure someone's love towards you based on their actions and responses to you, but that is just your assessment of their love towards you as you don't share their experiences or know their depth of feeling, and this also has no bearing on how "loving" they can be or how much they may love others.
Something like this. Which is why your argument fails.

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Old 01-12-2012, 05:06 PM   #236
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You can measure someone's love based on their actions and responses to you.
So by their responses to you, you can measure how much they love their child or their spouse? And then you can compare that measured amount of love to Christian's love for their child or spouse?
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:08 PM   #237
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So by their responses to you, you can measure how much they love their child or their spouse?
If you spend enough time talking to someone you can get a general idea of how they would treat other people in their life.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:09 PM   #238
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If you spend enough time talking to someone you can get a general idea of how they would treat other people in their life.
And what units do you measure their love in? Grams? Ounces?
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:11 PM   #239
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And what units do you measure their love in? Grams? Ounces?
Patience, understanding, and the way they react to distractions that are capable of disrupting a person's disposition.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:25 PM   #240
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Patience, understanding, and the way they react to distractions that are capable of disrupting a person's disposition.
I was on the edge of becoming a Christian until recently. This thread has helped a great deal in convincing me that I shouldn't. If your world view is what it means to be Christian, then I want no part of it. I think what you believe is disgusting. You aren't full of love, you're full of judgement and you are judging things you couldn't possibly know.

I tried to have an open mind towards Christianity but the Christians of this board have slammed that door shut.

My advice to you is to keep most of your opinions private if you want to convert people. You're going to have to try to fool them into thinking Christianity is something it's not to be successful IMO.
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