Yeah, because I mentioned Dawkins...oh wait, I didn't. You're misrepresenting my position....again. Stop that.

Dawkins just most easily comes to mind as a layman parading around as an expert in an area he has no credentials in: the human mind.

If I were you instead of assuming theists are delusional you might want to regularly check the literature on atheism. Does atheism have a psychological cause?

So far I've turned up Vitz's theory, Barrett's male brainedness from testosterone idea, a guy in Australia with a clinic purporting to cure atheism who says on youtube it's from an Oedipal complex and just recently former atheist Budziszewski's claim that his atheism stemmed from self deception.

Atheism could be from even more causes than the ones various people have claimed that I listed above and why wouldn't atheism stem from multiple causes? Aren't people diverse in their personalities and experiences?

Yes, people are diverse in their personalities and experiences. And if a person is an atheist for the wrong reasons then I'll come down just as hard on them as I do theists. Fortunately for me, the vast majority of atheists are atheists for rational reasons, so this rarely comes up.

Yeah, well beliefs are based in part in human psychology.

Just be aware of the fact that everyone lies and a lot of people lie to look good and they can learn to parrot the more seemingly rational people.

Motivation is the unexplored area of the whole existence of God debate. It's a huge and mysterious area and people hardly ever enter it because it is so complicated.

I couldn't care less what someone's motivation was in coming to their beliefs, so long as their beliefs and reasoning are valid now.

Well that's a mistake.

Evil people can be intelligent. It doesn't mean they know themselves and their own motives.

Their motives can muddy the water of their own intelligence though.

The mind doesn't work independently of the heart though alot of people act like it does.

You start studying human psychology. People are formed in part in infancy and most people don't remember their infancy. It's possible you could have an episode that forms your personality toward unbelief and never know the cause. But people change belief positions all the time. I'd read Budziszewski if I were you.

It like you don't even know how logic and reasoning works. Budziszewski, it seems, bases his entire belief in God on wholly fallacious reasoning. He doesn't like what he perceives to be the repercussions of a world without God, so he chooses to believe in one.

You don't know what he bases it on.

You most likely read a bio link on him and jumped to a conclusion.

You'd have to read his essay "Why I Am Not an Atheist" to see his reasoning.

You know arguing all the time isn't a good spiritual sign. A lot of competitiveness is vainglory and striving.

You might want to ask yourself why you feel this need to win all the time.

What Does the Bible Say About Competition?
http://www.ehow.com/about_4840221_wh...mpetition.html

I don't need to 'win' all the time. I care whether my beliefs are valid or not, and I hope others would do the same.

Err, who cares? Would you consider it valid if I gave a link on Zeus' opinion of competition?

Then you care about yourself and validating your ego and the ego is never neutral.

Humble is the best you could ever shoot for when dealing with the ego.

Yeah, it's certainly egotistical to make sure I don't believe nonsense.

The greatest minds in the world have argued this for thousands of years.

I assure you it is not nonsense or else they wouldn't be haggling over it so long. Read my WLC quote on the anthropic principle. The evidence may be tipping in favor of theism in science right now. Science can't continue to make a case unless philosophy bails them out....

WLC might want to stay out of scientific discussions. He's already claimed nonsense like (1) evolution is not validated and (2) anytime science disagrees with the bible then science is automatically wrong. His opinion on scientific matters can be thrown out with the young earth creationists and the perpetual motion cranks.

Hmmm...I'm in the process of reading one of his essays...His math skills seem rather good.

He has a very encyclopedic mind if you ask me.

Should everyone be listened to regarding interpretation of the bible, including those who you claim are not familiar enough with it to make valid judgements?

If so, why? (obv not applicable, you repeatedly state atheists have no place "cherry-picking" scripture they don't fully understand)
If not, why not?