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Do not look at the instrument6 through which the gift of the Word comes to you, and which comes to the aid of those who believe, or those who have doubts, or even those who do not believe. The instrument6 has obeyed in serving the Word and the orders received from God. And therefore she has directed herself to You, so that You may do what God wills. But if you reject the instrument,6 it is not so much her whom you strike and against whom, being blameless, you sin; as much as it is Me whom you strike, Us—We Who are One God in Our marvelous Trinity. And you sin against Love.

http://www.valtorta.org/TheEternalFa...opePiusXII.htm

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08-10-2017 , 05:26 PM

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It's a good thing you left the footnote "6" in place:

http://www.bardstown.com/~brchrys/PPiusXII.html#Notes

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6. "Do not look at the instrument..." —The "instrument" referred to here is Valtorta, who recorded the 15,000 handwritten pages of The Poem and many other revelations.

The "instrument" does not actually refer to WordPress.

It seems you're taking things out of context. That seems like a bad way to handle God's word.

But at least you're now citing a Pope's dictation instead of some guy who describes the trees on Saturn. I suppose this means you're making progress of some type.

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08-11-2017 , 07:29 AM

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Man is not worthy to change the Word of God, nor is he fit to change the meaning of the Word, nor does he have the right to do so. If a man takes the Word of God and deliberately misinterprets it, to hurt others, then this is a grave sin. There have been many who have tried to change the meaning of the Word but failed. Yet, there are those who created versions of the Word, which varied from the full Truth, and people were none the wiser. I do not hold these souls accountable because they used the Word only to give glory to God.

https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpre...of-revelation/

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08-11-2017 , 07:30 AM

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Men do not have understanding of the Scriptures in themselves! Rather it is a gift from God, received through The Holy Spirit, given to those who have placed all their trust in The Holy One. Or have you never read this Scripture, “The fear of The Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of The Holy One is understanding”?

Therefore, to those who have received is all revealed, and to those who have not received is all shut away... Shall the darkness understand the light?! For only those of The Light, bathed in His glory, shall see; the rest left blinded. For until one calls on the name of The Messiah, in sincerity and truth, by no means shall they receive. For He is The One who had placed the mud upon their eyes to heal them; behold, He is also The Water of Siloam which was sent to wash them, that they might now see.

Therefore, repent and give Him glory,
All you mockers and arrogant teachers!...

And do so alongside those I have chosen
To proclaim His glory and announce His coming...

Those who I have sent out to prepare His way before Him,
In whom I have placed the word of My mouth...

The last trumpet before the time...

Says The Lord.

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/in...Few_Are_Chosen

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08-11-2017 , 11:44 AM

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If a man takes the Word of God and deliberately misinterprets it, to hurt others, then this is a grave sin.

https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpre...of-revelation/

What if man claims to speak for God? Is that not a grave sin?

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08-11-2017 , 12:07 PM

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Jesus teaches and reminds about how to judge the prophets.

for example here:

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You need to prepare yourselves. Get into the Bible not as a hobby, as a matter of life and death. For in the Bible you will get the strength you need, the Power of the Holy Spirit. Be careful who you’re going to stone because that stone could kill one of My Prophets. And the only way you’ll know is if you have the Holy Spirit in you.

http://prophecy.org.il/0070-prophecy/

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08-11-2017 , 12:09 PM

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a unbeliever knows **** about the way of God.

There are believers that know just as much.

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08-11-2017 , 12:11 PM

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you know nothing until you know Jesus Christ.

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Jesus teaches and reminds about how to judge the prophets.

for example here:

http://prophecy.org.il/0070-prophecy/

First, the speaker's name is Raymond Aguilera. So to say that Jesus is teaching and reminding is already problematic.

Second, would you like to cite some specific part of the revelation that addresses what you're saying is being addressed?

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08-11-2017 , 12:12 PM

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you know nothing until you know Jesus Christ.

You are welcome to claim what you would like about my relationship with Jesus. Jesus knows, and that's all that matters.

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08-11-2017 , 12:14 PM

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i did not claim anything about your existing or non-existing relationship with Jesus.

Jesus knows, and im sure He cares of much more than His own knowledge. He cares about you and your eternal happiness. He cares about the feet of a little fly. He cares about the smallest atom.

He is the one who builds while mankind seeks to destroy.

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08-11-2017 , 12:18 PM

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Jesus is God almighty and chooses anyone He wants to deliever His messages.

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08-11-2017 , 12:20 PM

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What exactly are you trying to accomplish Froggle?

What special message are you sending that all the guys on tv networks like TBN, and all the missionaries, and all the pastors aren't?

I mean...I'm pretty sure they are all frowning upon gambling as well.

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08-11-2017 , 12:23 PM

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im sharing my testimony with the world. its not for you to understand until you lay all your life in the arms of Jesus Christ.

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08-11-2017 , 12:24 PM

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forsake everything you hold dear for the love of God. give upp all your posessions and then you give your broken heart to Jesus Christ and you shall gain eternal rewards.

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08-11-2017 , 12:28 PM

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Well if it's not for your intended audience to understand, as you put it, how will your posts not be regarded as rambling, thus resulting in your ban?

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08-11-2017 , 12:31 PM

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Jesus is God almighty and chooses anyone He wants to deliever His messages.

While this is true, on what basis do you decide whether the person delivering the message is or is not actually speaking for God? You've given no indication that you've tested the spirits or anything. You've even quoted people who have prophesied things that we know are false.

Also, it's worth noting that there are very few Christian traditions in which a speaker presumes to actually be speaking as Jesus, as in "Thus says the Lord" is typically heretical unless it is a saying attributed directly to Jesus (or God the Father) in Scripture. I'm not even sure that people would say "Thus says the Lord" and quote Paul.

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08-11-2017 , 12:33 PM

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im sharing my testimony with the world.

You're sharing your testimony by spamming a forum with words that other people have spoken? In what sense is that *your* testimony?

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08-11-2017 , 12:34 PM

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God speaks trough any person He wants and its not for unbeliever to understand.

its here either you accept it or not.

now, stop with your vain babbling please.

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08-11-2017 , 12:40 PM

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God speaks trough any person He wants and its not for unbeliever to understand.

This may be true, but it doesn't answer the question.

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its here either you accept it or not.

What if I choose not to accept it?

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now, stop with your vain babbling please.

You go first.

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08-11-2017 , 12:42 PM

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it does not matter.

please shut your mouth hole.

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08-11-2017 , 12:49 PM

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Do you have any Political/Legal beliefs, Froggle?

Do you think there should be laws imposed against gambling?

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08-11-2017 , 12:57 PM

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Gods Word is the Law.

Human opinions sucks and so does debates. Satan wins them. Jesus has said so and He is my teacher!

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Not a bad answer as Deut 4:2 seems to prohibit such legislation.

I think I understand what you're doing. You're not trying to distinguish yourself from the guys on TBN, pastors, missionaries, etc., but you're merely adding a +1 to do your part?