uke, did you honestly expect Doggg would back up his drivel? He is prejudiced and dishonest (and it's a little disturbing that he says he has an "aim ... to be called a peacemaker").

I'm not as disciplined as say, OrP, in ignoring Doggg's toxic rambling nonsense but his negativity brings down every thread he posts in, and he clearly feeds off of it. So I'm done.

Well, usually if I don't back something up, it could mean that I regret saying it, or that I regret saying it and that I wish it would go away- or... I kinda meant it, but still wish I hadn't said it. But if it is none of those things, then...

Really, it's not my place to judge unbelievers.

I've been kind of wondering, though- do you have any relation to an old atheist internet persona named SPEARFISH?

I honestly did not expect my first exchange with Doggg after years of being on his ignore list to be an insinuation that I didn't care about killing Christian children. I have just no idea where this is coming from. I haven't followed him too closely, so maybe it's just his MO to pick fights or something, but it seemed pretty ridiculous.

Doggg, if you didn't mean your coments, or regret saying it, or whatever, you can just take it back. Do you stand by the insinuation you have be unwilling or unable to substantiate: that I don't care about killing Christian chrildren? A simple retraction would go a long way.

I have no idea who spearfish is, this is my only account on twoplustwo

"playing" as in "masquerading"? His persona seems quite consistent on these character traits, admittedly it's only an online persona, but still.

No. If we can't get rid of religion, then my preference would be that people simply keep it to themselves, integrate, and be nice to other people. Proper, peaceful tolerance of the diversity of views, not hatred and constant 'them and us'.

Just merge this thread with the other pure **** "which first world country will ban Islam first" thread and be done with it.

Bonus points if you delete the whole pile after the merge.

Does anyone expect thekid to have some kind of realisation when he's reading their posts that it's also going to make sense?

I hear this word often when folks discuss religion, dogma that is. Religion has practically been around forever, humans in some fashion or another have had faith in something. Weather it be multiple Gods or one God. Atheists have faith in something, even though they dont believe in a diety, they trust in other humans and such.

A literal interpretation of the OT or Torah, or both? Of course the issue of Israel/Palestine is one of great controversy, while many Jews want peace in Israel, there are also the religious/political hardliners of Israel. I will admit I feel inclined to be as nice as possible wrt my treatment of Israel, but then again, I have noted the highly critical views toward Muslim majority nations such as Brunei, U.A.E, Qatar and other Muslim majority countries here on RGT. Folks often forgo a non bias treatment when it comes to a country such as Brunei.



I'm sure many Jews are aware of the rich history between the two faiths of Abraham around the world. That being said, it wouldn't hurt if the more conservative Rabbis talked about the actions of Muslims during WW2 to save Jews.

Well, this is a major thing to say. At this point about 20% of Israels population is Muslim. Its also a fact that of the Israeli population, one can note a diversity of viewpoints. Some Israelis are in favor of a two state solution, others are in favor in the current status quo, or even a one state solution in which full rights are guaranteed to both sides.

The interesting thing is one can note some evangelical Christians in the USA who staunchly support Israel, are more in line with biblical stuff then the actually Jews of Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqfwvIACj8

Classic.

I've been round the internet long enough to see a large number of people defend some pretty indefensible lines but the obduracy is surprising even me.

I see no reason this should be separate from the thread it is commenting on. Thus, I'll move it to the "Which first world country will ban Islam first" thread.

I don't worry about whether people are trying to construct an online persona that reflects their offline beliefs and character, just whether that online persona is one I want to talk to. In my view, Doggg's primary goal in conversation is to drive a wedge between Christians and atheists. Since I am opposed to that goal, I am generally not interested in talking with Doggg.

I think your view may well be correct. On the plus side we have LemonZest and all the other theists who aren't inclined towards militant divisiveness so there's that.

of the 12 voters who believe X country will ban Islam, what is your logic behind your beliefs? And how will this situation be carried out?